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Mirrors hitting windshield

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I just installed a new medium height (they call it "tall") National Cycle windshield on my 2013 PCX 150. Easy installation.
But when I turn the bars my stock mirrors hit the windshield and I can't turn left far enough to lock the steering.
Very frustrated. I will try moving the mirror stems back a little to see if that works.
Anyone had this issue?
Help, please.
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I have an perfect set of Magazi tulip mirrors if you want to make an offer. You might not want them because your bike is red and the mirrors are white but someone else might. I think the Magazi sport mirrors would solve your issue and look much better.
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On our tall GIVI windshields we bought the mirror extending kit, which moved the mirrors out about an inch or so. This solved the problem. Others have gotten by with just moving the mirror stems. If you think you might need the kit, look up GIVI 323t kit.
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Mel46 wrote:On our tall GIVI windshields we bought the mirror extending kit, which moved the mirrors out about an inch or so. This solved the problem. Others have gotten by with just moving the mirror stems. If you think you might need the kit, look up GIVI 323t kit.
http://www.compacc.com/p/givi-replaceme ... elds-honda
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Mel46 wrote:On our tall GIVI windshields we bought the mirror extending kit, which moved the mirrors out about an inch or so. This solved the problem. Others have gotten by with just moving the mirror stems. If you think you might need the kit, look up GIVI 323t kit.
http://www.compacc.com/p/givi-replaceme ... elds-honda
I didn't find a mirror extension kit on that site or Google.
I don't know how extending the mirrors outward would help. When I turn the bar to within a couple of inches of maximum, the mirror hits the outer edge of the windshield.
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On mine, I loosened the mirror stalks at their bases and turned the bars all the way to each side, just rotating the mirror stalks just off the screen and re-tightening. You may also get more adjustable clearance by loosening the hand grip mounts and/or rotating the bars, themselves slightly aft. I had no trouble fitting everything together satisfactorily.
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Hmm...Have you rotated/repositioned your handlebars at all? Away from the screen (towards you, when seated).
Last fall I moved my bars forward (away from me), I then found that I had to reposition the mirrors and brake levers. All simple to do it just takes time getting it just right for you. Be aware of the various cables while adjusting parts. No biggie, they were not bothered while I did mine. Just be mindful of them.
If your mirrors still hit your med Givi screen then you'll need another plan. I know full swing bars and locking with "other screens" can be a problem. Been there done that too.
Sooo, Perhaps the mirror extenders mentioned will be the answer. :P

Someone else have experience with mirror extenders? Would you mind sharing a link(s) for them?
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WhiteNoise wrote:Hmm...Have you rotated/repositioned your handlebars at all? Away from the screen (towards you, when seated).
Last fall I moved my bars forward (away from me), I then found that I had to reposition the mirrors and brake levers. All simple to do it just takes time getting it just right for you. Be aware of the various cables while adjusting parts. No biggie, they were not bothered while I did mine. Just be mindful of them.
Tis true, and I did this with you. So in theory he maybe could pull the bars down a little and recover the clearance needed as well? :D
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At the web link that I provided, there are 2 pull down menus. On the first one, look for PCX 125 10-12/150 13 (that means it is for both the 125 and the 150 up to 2013). On the second pull down menu go to the very bottom. For $12.99 you will see the 323 kit. That is the kit you will need. The kit bolts into the hole where the mirror presently connects into the handlebar. It is simply a steel bar about two to 3 inches in length, which will move the mirror base further out. Here is a picture of the bar. (It also comes with the lock nuts needed to attach it and the mirror.)
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I finally found the extenders.
So I went out to try moving the bars back and discovered that the bolts are hex pin bolts and a regular 6mm hex wrench won't go in the hole correctly.
So I have to go spend more money on tools I will use very rarely. :(
And have mirrors hitting the windshield in the meantime.
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I don't know if I'm seeing things or not. In different light and at different angles, the hex bolts for the handlebars look different.
Are they, or are they not hex pin/pin hex bolts?
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I don`t quite understand what the problem is. Maybe you have adifferent setup. Do you have a PCX or a Forza? My advice is assuming that you have a PCX. I carry an adjustable wrench or two on my bike that works well for tightening the nut on the bottom. If the top uses an allen wrench, you can find a full set for almost nothing. I carry a set that are all attached together like a pocket knife. If you need a socket set, they are cheap enough at places like Harbor Freight as well. If you plan on doing your own maintenance you will eventually need most of the metric tool set anyway, so consider a set as an expense that will save you from spending money at the repair shop.
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Danger -- Danger -- Slippery Slope Alert !

This is how it starts. First some random tools: a socket set here, an Allen wrench set there, then a few screwdrivers, and before you know what's happened you own a set of TorX drivers and a maybe a torque wrench too. Then you need a tool box to keep them in, then another, bigger tool box for the ones that don't fit in the first one. Now you need a garage because you and your toolboxes have been thrown out of the house.

Not to worry, though, because now that you have a garage you have plenty of room to build pegboards to hang your specialty tools from, plus rafters to hang all your cables and extension cords from, right up there with your chainsaws and hedge trimmers. Your bigger tools can be leaned against either of the remaining walls that aren't blocked by your tool boxes or your cot.

Just try not to go overboard so you don't end up like Mel or me.

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Success, finally. I had to use a hammer to tap the Allen wrench into the holes, and tap on the wrench to get it to turn to loosen the handlebar bolts. I rotated them back maybe 1" or less. Then rotated the brake levers down a bit to a comfortable position. Now the mirrors barely touch the windshield when I turn hard, as in slowly turning around with my feet down.
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Well that's good news. A smack of the 'ol hammer trick, yeah that's been a popular hit thru the ages. Dead battery? Why back in the day, when I were a wee one, me Dad would hit the battery cable connectors @ the terminals to get her running. Crazy fix but it worked (sometimes) :lol:

Next time, before smacking your 6mm allen wrench, key, bit or other long hex T, try a bit of "Blaster PB." Sold everywhere. A light spray on each bolt the evening before will loosen it enough by the next day for easy removal. I know, I did it ;) It works.
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@ Johnny...too funny and too too true! :lol:
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homie wrote:
WhiteNoise wrote:Hmm...Have you rotated/repositioned your handlebars at all? Away from the screen (towards you, when seated).
Last fall I moved my bars forward (away from me), I then found that I had to reposition the mirrors and brake levers. All simple to do it just takes time getting it just right for you. Be aware of the various cables while adjusting parts. No biggie, they were not bothered while I did mine. Just be mindful of them.
Tis true, and I did this with you. So in theory he maybe could pull the bars down a little and recover the clearance needed as well? :D
I'm not 100% sure that I follow how to do this. I looked at the handlebar mount yesterday, and I don't see any way to attach any kind of wrench to it. There's four smooth bosses where bolts should be. It looks like I'm going to have to take all the plastic body parts off the front to get underneath to find a bolt head.

Anyone have any kind of diagram to show how to rotate the handlebars? Could they please post it if they do?
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@WhiteNoise,

Don't throw out that vise! You never know when you might need it...

And just send me the electrical tools; I think I have room for them in my "waiting to rebuild" area.

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This is getting crazier!
Hey Ish, do us a favor...can ya post a pic or two of "what you're looking at?" In reference to your bars 4 smooth bosses/bolts and whatever else you're having a problem with. I/we need a close look too ;)
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WhiteNoise wrote:This is getting crazier!
Hey Ish, do us a favor...can ya post a pic or two of "what you're looking at?" In reference to your bars 4 smooth bosses/bolts and whatever else you're having a problem with. I/we need a close look too ;)
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I'd love to, but the bike is still in my friend's garage across town. I haven't yet gone to get a motorcycle endorsement for my driver's license.

On second thought, I've found a pic online to show what it is to which I refer. The red arrows point to the bosses on the handlebar mount.
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