Opinion on engine additives

[Brent]

Do any of you use additives in your engines? I put Lucas Fuel Injector Cleaner in my vehicles, and wondered if anyone uses it in their PCX 150 or Forzas?

[Jge64]

I use chevron with techron already in it. Techron is the real deal.

[homie]

a mouse and an extra wheel

[you you]

Being gullible goes a long way

[JohnL]

Being gullible goes a long way

Does that include reading and believing your posts?

Keep up the good work, I enjoy your cynicism.

[waspmike]

It doesn't do any harm. Very, very high mileage bikes with catastrophic converters may benefit from a specific CAT cleaner but...

[j.d.b.]

Unless Honda recommends it, it's not necessary. These things are very well-engineered.

[iceman]

Exactly - the PCX engine is fine and does well without anything other than what Honda specifies being added or any changes to the bike - it's efficient, lasts a long time (unless you get one of the small % duds) and the bike does almost as good stock as people spending $1000's on it.
Also, any good 4-stroke oil will do - doesn't need to have all kinds of additives added above what gets added to good oil anyway - modern oils are good.
North UK for one gets lots of rain and sub-zero temps - the PCX/Forza's seem to do very well on normal oil and fuel (winter Fuel for about 1/3rd/yr) without adding any other stuff.

[Pcxdemon]

Exactly - the PCX engine is fine and does well without anything other than what Honda specifies being added or any changes to the bike - it's efficient, lasts a long time (unless you get one of the small % duds) and the bike does almost as good stock as people spending $1000's on it.

Sorry what do you mean?

I spent thousand on it and now I have a Pcx that's twice as fast to to its top end speed than a stock 150cc Pcx..that's a massive difference, infact it's also faster to 60mph than a 300cc Forza!
Surely you can't argue against that?!

[iceman]

Well, glad it's worked out for you. Many have spent lots on parts and lots of time 'fiddling' and ended up with hardly any improvement or problems.

Also, over here, spending lots on it and if you are honest about the changes, the insurance and registration changes would be hard to sort and expensive (unless people keep quite and ride bikes that are no longer legal).

[gn2]

I spent thousand on it and now I have a Pcx that's twice as fast to to its top end speed than a stock 150cc Pcx..that's a massive difference, infact it's also faster to 60mph than a 300cc Forza!
Surely you can't argue against that?!

The thread is about fuel additives, not performance modifications

[waspmike]

Friction reducing additives can yield benefits but as a PCX is only a single cylinder they would not be huge. Especially at higher speeds where aerodynamics plays a bigger role.

[fish]

Exactly - the PCX engine is fine and does well without anything other than what Honda specifies being added or any changes to the bike - it's efficient, lasts a long time (unless you get one of the small % duds) and the bike does almost as good stock as people spending $1000's on it.

Sorry what do you mean?

I spent thousand on it and now I have a Pcx that's twice as fast to to its top end speed than a stock 150cc Pcx..that's a massive difference, infact it's also faster to 60mph than a 300cc Forza!
Surely you can't argue against that?!

Too small and too light for more than stock speed.
Nothing on your little scooter was designed for more....
Fish

[j.d.b.]

Exactly - the PCX engine is fine and does well without anything other than what Honda specifies being added or any changes to the bike - it's efficient, lasts a long time (unless you get one of the small % duds) and the bike does almost as good stock as people spending $1000's on it.

Sorry what do you mean?

I spent thousand on it and now I have a Pcx that's twice as fast to to its top end speed than a stock 150cc Pcx..that's a massive difference, infact it's also faster to 60mph than a 300cc Forza!
Surely you can't argue against that?!

So, now you're putting "way-above-design" pressure on your small system. Don't expect it to last long. That money you spent could have been put into a properly designed more powerful machine that would likely be faster AND hold up. Did part of that money go into a beefier oiling system or heavier-duty bottom-end? How about cooling? These systems are all about pressure and it's use/management. Fix one problem, create five others (watchwords of our faith).

[waspmike]

OT

That money you spent could have been put into a properly designed more powerful machine that would likely be faster AND hold up.

Like a SYM?

For the price of a Ferrari would be Sam Waltons could buy six F150's?

How people spend their money is irrelevant?

It is PCXdemon's hobby. Maybe he doesn't go fishing, collect watches or whatever others spend their money on.

[j.d.b.]

Sorry to have offended you.

[waybar]

My Forza performs great just the way it is, I don't plan on any mods or making any changes, just do what the manual says. Leave well enough alone. I've learned from the past from trying to mod 150's for greater performance, that it affects the longevity of the machine.

[waspmike]

Sorry to have offended you.

I was not offended. Just stating my opinion on spending money. Up to certain amounts that is what it is for. After that it is for making more?

[relic]

spending money-waspmike-my dad used to say the army was all about
digging a hole so you could fill it back in

[fish]

spending money-waspmike-my dad used to say the army was all about
digging a hole so you could fill it back in

First you move it, then you fill it back in.
I used only Honda products in my Forza.
Fish