The future in safety

[easyrider]

https://facebook.com/1154128124621017/v ... 933004034/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWQbMfx8rOU

[Mel46]

The vest would not have helped my wife in her accident, but a fully inflatable jacket might have. However, even my present jacket would have helped her, and it is a Tourmaster with plenty of protection built in.
The big problem on the air vest would be how to make them so that the rider would not forget to unplug it when they are ready to dismount. I am sure there would be quite a few that would forget. Also, what would the rider do after a small accident, such as the bike slipping on gravel and falling over? Would he have to ride home with it fully inflated, or would he lose all protection by deflating it and not having another cartridge for future protection? How does he stuff all of the inflated material back into the jacket so that he CAN ride home? After he gets home, then what? Does he not ride until it is taken care of by a professional?

[homie]

Looks like these are about ready for prime time. Like the helmet I see new laws and insurance mandates in the future. I'm all in when they are 400.00 or less.

[easyrider]

The one I purchased is the Helite. Once it inflates, it immediately slowly deflates so it will not be in its expanded state very long. This way you can carry it or pack it. The tug on it to activate is like 30 lbs pull, so you are not likely to inflate it accidently getting off the bike.I dunno , can you put a price on pain and suffering. If you like to ride, its ineveitable some asshole will try to clip you, or some texting teen will get you. Is it 100% fool proof..definitely not, but guys lets put the odds in our favor and not let a few bucks get in the way. Hell we will undoubtedly piss away the money on something stupid anyway, so why not on safety..its only money and I have never seen an armored car in a funeral procession..have you !!lol

[homie]

I have no doubt my son will be wearing one in the not so distant future but I'm keeping that 700.00 in my bank for now. I'm sure they will sell enough to get better production costs soon. I feel the trigger price is 400 for this item and I'm thinking they know that too.

[Mel46]

I'm not saying that I don't like the idea, but I think there are some questions that still need logical answers, such as, after it inflates and deflates is it any good for the remainder of your ride home? I am sure there have been a few of us who have ridden their steed home after a minor accident, or who have picked up their scratched up bike and just kept on going. I can remember once having a go around with some oily chicken feed spilled on the road. I ended up having to duct tape parts back on for the ride home. (Different bike than the PCX.) In that particular case I stepped off of the bike as it was going down and waited until it came to rest on its side. It was too heavy for me to try to force it upright when it was going down, and after it came to a stop it took 3 people to try to get it upright in the middle of that slippery mess on the road. I am pretty sure, if I had been wearing one of those inflatable vest, the vest would have inflated. What then?? For the price they want for the vest, it had better be useable more than once.

[homie]

Easy crash to watch
foul language but justifiable
Airbag did a nice job for the speed of the off
These are good I will say that

[easyrider]

From what I understand the vest which is cool in the summer can be used 6 times without any issues. After six then they suggest a manufacturer check. I hope it never inflates, but all you have to do is insert another co2 cartridge in the vest. Like putting a battery in a flashlight. Hope the money in the bank earning 1% is worth a ruptured spleen, or other .. of course this is debatable and there are pros and cons.. the bottom line is a gamble on whether or not you will need one. For me 600 bucks is a cheap investment and better than insurance . I rather not be put back together in some O. R.. or be in a wheel chair forever.
There are some real cheap ones as well 300 less I think. To each is own.. I just don't trust society and drivers today.. too many distractions .

[PCX150Rider]

Makes me think of Moto GP. The back and neck protection. . .it does pop quite instantaneously.

[Mel46]

I would like it more if the shoulder area was more protected, Maybe they could put a small sleeve on it that came down over the shoulder. That way, if you land on your shoulder, which would more than likely be the case at some point, you would have protection there.

[homie]

Showed the video to my wife and she wasn't put off by the cost. um, I don't read her very well these days. I think she's been abducted by aliens. Fine I'll buy that and live forever!!!

[PCX150Rider]

Well I guess we have an upgrade option now if the Hi Viz Reflective Vests don't seem to be doing the job as effectively as time marches on. Maybe next year's version of the inflatable will have more features like the shoulder support Mel was referring to. Even a device around the waist to help relieve hip injuries or hematomas due to impact would be helpful too.

Honestly though, and with all due respect, I think the accident in the video could have been totally avoided. I don't know what the rider was thinking or looking at but he was definitely not setting himself up early enough to bank into that apex. . .not that he had to. . .seems he wasn't going that fast. It's most fortunate that the device helped him survive to ride another day. . ..

If I had a kid who was into riding I might insist that they wear an inflatable crash vest or other equipment while they were living under my roof. Not trying to tell them what to do but would like to allow them time to develop their riding instincts based on experiences.

[you you]

Easy crash to watch
foul language but justifiable
Airbag did a nice job for the speed of the off
These are good I will say that

What a pillock

[Mel46]

This is what I ride with, and it worked out well in my accident. I also had knee braces that kept my knees safe. In an accident many many years ago I did not have any knee braces and I had to have knee surgery. This time I walked away without injury.
https://www.amazon.com/Back-Line-Suppor ... brace&th=1

[easyrider]

I suppose it is designed to protect the vital areas ie spinal column , and vital organs. Most motorcycle accidents and vehicle accidents result in lacerated spleens and spinal cord injuries that render folks paraplegic or spleenless . I dunno, how many times have we heard about someone getting killed or a paraplegic from a motorcycle accident and we say only if they would come up with something to protect us.. Well, now they have due to more popular demands and today's able technology.We have it, and what do we do..we poo- poo it as it doesn't do this, it doesn't do that , too much $ etc etc. I dunno, I just can see letting 500 bucks getting in the way of saving someone from catastrophic injury or death..especially in this distractive road environment we live in today.

[PCX150Rider]

I suppose it is designed to protect the vital areas ie spinal column , and vital organs. Most motorcycle accidents and vehicle accidents result in lacerated spleens and spinal cord injuries that render folks paraplegic or spleenless . I dunno, how many times have we heard about someone getting killed or a paraplegic from a motorcycle accident and we say only if they would come up with something to protect us.. Well, now they have due to more popular demands and today's able technology.We have it, and what do we do..we poo- poo it as it doesn't do this, it doesn't do that , too much $ etc etc. I dunno, I just can see letting 500 bucks getting in the way of saving someone from catastrophic injury or death..especially in this distractive road environment we live in today.

Hey Easy Rider - You are thinking in the right direction. It's just that I think there has always been a certain sense of freedom associated with riding motorcycles or scooters (although scooters may be more utilitarian) that is ingrained in the social psyche and it's going to take a while for that to morph. The planet is seeing an increase in human population beyond anything it's had to support through the centuries and that means a lot more people traveling the roads and arteries. Observe the increase in elderly (who may not see like they used to or be able to turn around to look when they back up or get confused more easily), plus people on meds or under the influence (whatever the reason), plus more bold drivers, plus technologically enabled distracted drivers, and declining infrastructure. Some people just shouldn't ride because they are a Klutz, or accident prone. That's only part of the list but it conveys the fact that it is indeed getting more dangerous to operate anything on the roads now.

Almost every time I take a significant ride on my motorcycles now there seems to be at least one weird situation that I get pulled into and just hope that I get through it OK.

Granted there are some geographical areas that are congestion free but then there may be the wild life to deal with. So it comes down to driving in a cage, riding, or considering something new that is starting to emerge on the market like those "Slingshots" made by Polaris that people have been talking about lately. http://www.polaris.com/en-us/slingshot. Pricey though. . .

If you read about any other life saving devices for riders let us know. . .I think it's going to be a growing market.

[PCX150Rider]

This is what I ride with, and it worked out well in my accident. I also had knee braces that kept my knees safe. In an accident many many years ago I did not have any knee braces and I had to have knee surgery. This time I walked away without injury.

Mel - Do you mean Motocross knee braces? Those things can cost over $500 or upwards close to $1000. Combine that with the air vest and back brace and it sounds like they should just invent a "Michelin Man" suit eh?

If it works I'd buy one. . .although it may take a few minutes to stop bouncing around after an accident.

Hope I haven't just jinxed myself. . .

[PCX150Rider]

Anybody heard about this stuff? Perrini Armor Jacket. . .and cheap too! Just don't Plasti-Dip the thing. . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqZKT_w2jIM

[homie]

Anybody heard about this stuff? Perrini Armor Jacket. . .and cheap too! Just don't Plasti-Dip the thing. . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqZKT_w2jIM

I've known these are available but I just don't see anyone using them. I figured there must be a good reason.

[PCX150Rider]

I've known these are available but I just don't see anyone using them. I figured there must be a good reason.

After I did a little more research on these I found that there were sizing issues and multiple returns. For some I guess they were OK but not for everyone.