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Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:54 pm
by honkerman
homie wrote:Honkyman OMG! you are a nut!
I'm going to have to add you to the crash list.... AGAIN!
Nah, no more crashing for me. Tbh, the Honda still seems solid enough, and like I said, the Piaggio is functional. It doesn't like the heat very well since it's carbureted (may need to run some fuel treatment through it), but it's functional. I can remove the PCX front tire and take it to school to mount and balance it.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:42 pm
by you you
I can see it from that picture now. In nearly 40 years of riding I've never seen that.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:53 pm
by WhiteNoise
"I'm melting, melting...."
Seriously, that looks really weird n wavy!
Please...no waving! Hello wave is good. Good-bye is not!
Take no chances. Why should you? New tires are sweet, (minus their hokey pokey break in). What's that again? 100 miles? Can't recall. Oh well, either way, on goes the new! Clap clap with a :)

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:23 am
by gn2
honkerman wrote:Here's a shot from the side. You can see the lumps fairly clearly. It's very obvious in person, but unless you really want to take an international flight and come for a visit, that's not going to be possible. :lol:
There's no way I'm paying money to visit the US&A, its full of gun-toting lunatics.
If The Donald and Hilary are the best you can come up with for presidential candidates it seems to me like your country is utterly fucked.

Anywho, in the latest picture the tyre does look a bit odd right enough.
A floor sander, grinder or similar should get those lumps off in no time flat.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:27 am
by DailyRider
My tires were less severe, no way would it have shown up in a picture.

But the mechanic said that once it starts, it just continues to get worse. Although I did try over inflating my tires until the new ones came in and that did (sort of) work.

That was during the hot season here (riding every day at mid 90s and above) and the roads here are worse than in PA.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:56 am
by Mel46
I was a bit off my game yesterday. Yes, the front should last twice the time the rear does. My bad.
I have never seen a front tire on a scooter do what yours did. I'm trying to determine what would be the best way to prevent this from happening. If you over inflate you could see something like that. If you under inflate you could also get that, but then it should be on the outside. Your tire is way more worn than I have seen on other tires. What in the world have you been doing with that poor little scooter??

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:21 am
by honkerman
gn2 wrote:
honkerman wrote:Here's a shot from the side. You can see the lumps fairly clearly. It's very obvious in person, but unless you really want to take an international flight and come for a visit, that's not going to be possible. :lol:
There's no way I'm paying money to visit the US&A, its full of gun-toting lunatics.
If The Donald and Hilary are the best you can come up with for presidential candidates it seems to me like your country is utterly fucked.

Anywho, in the latest picture the tyre does look a bit odd right enough.
A floor sander, grinder or similar should get those lumps off in no time flat.
Even so, it wouldn't pass inspection, and that's due at the end of the month.

And we're not all lunatics...I do carry a firearm, but just as a last ditch precaution. You never know these days what kind of crap someone is going to try, and police response isn't as fast as a well practiced draw. That said, I've never had to use it and hope the need never arises.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:30 am
by gn2
honkerman wrote:Even so, it wouldn't pass inspection, and that's due at the end of the month.
That bit was a joke.
honkerman wrote:And we're not all lunatics...I do carry a firearm, but just as a last ditch precaution. You never know these days what kind of crap someone is going to try, and police response isn't as fast as a well practiced draw. That said, I've never had to use it and hope the need never arises.
That bit isn't.
When your whole society is awash with firearms bad shit is guaranteed to happen.
Carrying one yourself just makes you part of the problem.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:17 am
by honkerman
gn2 wrote:
honkerman wrote:Even so, it wouldn't pass inspection, and that's due at the end of the month.
That bit was a joke.
honkerman wrote:And we're not all lunatics...I do carry a firearm, but just as a last ditch precaution. You never know these days what kind of crap someone is going to try, and police response isn't as fast as a well practiced draw. That said, I've never had to use it and hope the need never arises.
That bit isn't.
When your whole society is awash with firearms bad shit is guaranteed to happen.
Carrying one yourself just makes you part of the problem.
You're welcome to your opinion. You're wrong, but I won't debate you here. This is the last I'll say anything on it since this isn't the point of this forum.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:35 am
by gn2
honkerman wrote:You're welcome to your opinion.
It isn't opinion.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:13 pm
by honkerman
gn2 wrote:
honkerman wrote:You're welcome to your opinion.
It isn't opinion.
Could you please have the good grace to drop the subject so a mod does not lock the thread. Thanks.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:40 pm
by gn2
Doing it for you now. :)

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:44 pm
by dkazzed
honkerman wrote:
Mel46 wrote:At 7 K miles on the front tire it is about time to change it anyway. Most front tires don't make it much beyond 7,000 miles before needing replacement. Rear tires will go twice that distance.
Not in my experience. It's usually the other way around. On my Kymco, the first front tire lasted nearly 20k miles. The rear had to be changed three times in that timeframe.
Whoops I thought I was looking at the rear tire. The tread direction and lack of CVT/exhaust should've been an indication.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:39 pm
by honkerman
Got the new tire on. Man I love my city grips. Added bonus, it did not need to be balanced. Rare occurrence that.

http://scootinfool.blogspot.com/2016/06 ... bject.html

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:22 pm
by gn2
honkerman wrote:Added bonus, it did not need to be balanced. Rare occurrence that.
I've not had a tyre balanced for my scooter in five years.
That's about nine or ten tyres.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:32 pm
by honkerman
gn2 wrote:
honkerman wrote:Added bonus, it did not need to be balanced. Rare occurrence that.
I've not had a tyre balanced for my scooter in five years.
That's about nine or ten tyres.

For the Forza and the PCX?

My Kymco always had weights on it...maybe it's Honda...maybe the small diameter wheels...course, at the lower speeds we're generally going on the PCX it's not a do or die thing anyway.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:33 pm
by ScottDR
gn2 wrote:I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking at...?
All I can see in the foreground is a normal front tyre and there's no cups anywhere.

Cups usually either have tea or tits in them. :confused:
Oh man! I almost fell off my chair! LOL!

Anyway, cupping of tires is found by running your hand both with and against the direction of rotation. What is felt is a definitely raised edge where the sipes are cut felt in one direction. Usually cause by week dampers OR most likely in this scenario, less compliant tires. Let's face it, the stock tires are a definite trade off.

Cheers!

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:06 am
by gn2
honkerman wrote:For the Forza and the PCX?
Yes.
The originals were balanced but I've only ever had one rear on the PCX balanced, the local tyre fitter which would balance scooter tyres closed down.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:19 am
by you you
gn2 wrote:
honkerman wrote:For the Forza and the PCX?
Yes.
The originals were balanced but I've only ever had one rear on the PCX balanced, the local tyre fitter which would balance scooter tyres closed down.

I don't bother on any of my bikes. As long as the light spot is next to the valve they are ok. If I did have a problem after that I'd get them balanced.

Re: Holy cupping Batman!

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:29 am
by honkerman
you you wrote:
gn2 wrote:
honkerman wrote:For the Forza and the PCX?
Yes.
The originals were balanced but I've only ever had one rear on the PCX balanced, the local tyre fitter which would balance scooter tyres closed down.

I don't bother on any of my bikes. As long as the light spot is next to the valve they are ok. If I did have a problem after that I'd get them balanced.
Anyone who has visited this forum can clearly see that you are unbalanced.

:lol: :lol: :D