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gn2 wrote:A private sale might net you more cash than trading it in.
New rear tyre makes for easier sale at higher price.

Problem is my payoff is like $3800 and so if I sold privately, I would have to cough up (credit card??) the difference to get the title for the new owner...whereas on a trade, it would get rolled into the financing, which would be lower interest rate than credit card. Not sure what I could sell it for, thinking about $2000. The Dealer is offering about $1700...so $300 difference.

Sorry but you lost me four words in.
Payoff?
Title?

gn2 wrote:Sorry but you lost me four words in.
Payoff?
Title?

I financed my PCX through Honda Financial. I owe on the loan- more than its worth. The Title is the paper that shows ownership. Until the loan is paid in full, Honda holds the title.
Does this help? Or was you joking?

No I wasn't joking, you speak a different language.
So if I have it correct you owe Honda $3800 on a scooter with a trade in value of $1700 which you don't own?
This effectively means you need to pay Honda two grand to come and take their scooter away.
Keep it till the loan is paid off or at least untill such time as you can sell it for enough to clear the loan in full.

kramnala58 wrote:

GeeGusKahn wrote:Hay Kramnala, on your front city grip, did you go up in size or stay with the 90/90 ?

Sean ... I put the 120/70 on the front and the 140/70 on the back. As I mentioned in an earlier post, it lifted the rear splash guard slightly but did nothing with the front fender. A few months ago I swapped out the front fender because I like the look of the new one better. When I took the old on off I could see where the tire had rubbed it slightly, but it may have been the previous tires that did that. In my opinion, 120/70 on the front and 140/70 on the back is as large as you should gou without expecting to make mods.

All the best,
Mark

So 140/70/14 is the biggest you can go in the rear on the stock rim? I've been having a difficult time finding the 120's/70/14. Never mind i've been using the motorcyclesuperstore and had to include the "Front" tire in my search. How do you like the 140's? How difficult was it to get the tire on to the rim? I've done my own tires in the past.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/50 ... 0-8_5-7_14

gn2 wrote:An OEM rear tyre lasts roughly 4500-7000 miles.
Michelin CityGrip rear should last much longer.

i might want to give mine a check then as i just turned 9000 on the original tire ........

chrisdurand wrote:

gn2 wrote:An OEM rear tyre lasts roughly 4500-7000 miles.
Michelin CityGrip rear should last much longer.

i might want to give mine a check then as i just turned 9000 on the original tire ........

You don't want to get in the way of gn2s opinions.

You don't want to be riding on a baldy tyre either.

gn2 wrote:You don't want to be riding on a baldy tyre either.

in responce i said in my mind "i wish i would have remembered how deep the pattern was" so i could sorta have a better idea of how far gone the tire was.....i have been into pedal bikes for decades so i know when its time to replace a worn out tire. The scoot's tire has lost its round / oval profile on the contact area and is more flat........but in short i guess its time to get a new one..... will it be tomorrow? no probaly not......but soon?...yes

gn2 wrote:No I wasn't joking, you speak a different language.
So if I have it correct you owe Honda $3800 on a scooter with a trade in value of $1700 which you don't own?
This effectively means you need to pay Honda two grand to come and take their scooter away.
Keep it till the loan is paid off or at least untill such time as you can sell it for enough to clear the loan in full.

I second this. Why would you ever EVER trade up when you still owe more value than the trade? That's a miserably idiotic financial strategy. Bikes only decline in value -- you're going to drive off the lot with a new Forza, and lose $1000 immediately from tax + new bike depreciation, meaning your Forza is going to essentially cost you $3k more than it should.

Keep your PCX. Pay your bills.

gn2 wrote:You don't want to be riding on a baldy tyre either.

We calls them "sneakers" (baldy) round here. C'mon, go git new tyres! "Live" a little >>>> Longer

Left tire stock rear, right tire upgraded to the 140/70/14



Left tire new size 120/70/14, compared to stock tire mounted on bike


Final profile on stand of both new tires installed


Since the tires are wider and taller the ride is actually much smoother. Only down size is there is no more rotating mass. So it's not as pep as it was with the smaller tires. I'm still able to hit 77mph downhill full ninja tuck and not hit the rev limiter. Also this has changed the accuracy of speedo because the size difference.

I have also notice the bike doesn't feel all the stupid lines in the road especially on the freeway like the skinny tires did.

No rubbing?

you you wrote:No rubbing?

No rubbing at all, maybe 1/4 gap and have not noticed anything when i hit bumps. Also was able to keep the rear fender attached to the engine case... Lower rear fender.

you you wrote:No rubbing?

I have about ¼ inch clearance on the lower rear fender. The front fender is about the same. I have not had any issues with dips or bumps in the road either. I am satisfied with the outcome.

dem0nk1d wrote:

you you wrote:No rubbing?

No rubbing at all, maybe 1/4 gap and have not noticed anything when i hit bumps. Also was able to keep the rear fender attached to the engine case... Lower rear fender.

Cheers. Good bit of info on max tyre sizes

dem0nk1d wrote:Left tire stock rear, right tire upgraded to the 140/70/14


Since the tires are wider and taller the ride is actually much smoother. Only down size is there is no more rotating mass. So it's not as pep as it was with the smaller tires. I'm still able to hit 77mph downhill full ninja tuck and not hit the rev limiter. Also this has changed the accuracy of speedo because the size difference.

I have also notice the bike doesn't feel all the stupid lines in the road especially on the freeway like the skinny tires did.

, Go Big or Go Home!

You should gps verify... your 77mph should actually be 81 real mph now...( your speedo should be 4mph off now)

Can you take a pic of the rear tire semi-close up directly from behind? Would like to see how the profile is!

ScooterMan wrote:Can you take a pic of the rear tire semi-close up directly from behind? Would like to see how the profile is!

I have a 140/70/14 on mine. Does this pic help?

I do like the look of a wider tire on the PCX. How does it handle in turns?