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easyrider wrote:In my opinion the moto man has some good points but very inaccurate in others. For example, when the fire occurs pressure is forced equally down on the ring both in front of and in back of the ring.towards the piston but the pressure will be applied equally to both sides. the spring helps direct pressure to the inside of the ring forcing the ring outwardly. However,many engine tuners think that a fast hard run will break in the rings sooner , but not necessarily true.Same as if you were to file down a burr would it come off faster if you move the file faster. No, it wont it will take just so many passes to remove that same amount of metal fast or slow.In modern day engines there is a slight wear in period but once that wear is evenly distributed the rings will ride on an molecular oil sheet and no longer touches the metal cylinder wall. Fast or slow this wear in period will not change . It is based on revolutions and not on how hard you work the engine.Many tuners believe that the best approach is to moderately stress a new engine and most importanty to vary the RPMs so that the rings will seat more evenly.
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Just rode my bike like how I intend use it the moment I brought it out of the dealer. If anything goes wrong, I'd rather know about it when I still have the warranty fresh from the dealer.

IMO the company should break it in for us, so that we should be able to enjoy our ride right from the start.
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Manufacturer's put every freshly built vehicle on a dyno at max RPM to ensure the engine is within specification before it even leaves the factory.
Drive/ride it how you want, just don't sit on the same revs constantly while cruising.
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easyrider wrote:
easyrider wrote:In my opinion the moto man has some good points but very inaccurate in others. For example, when the fire occurs pressure is forced equally down on the ring both in front of and in back of the ring.towards the piston but the pressure will be applied equally to both sides. the spring helps direct pressure to the inside of the ring forcing the ring outwardly. However,many engine tuners think that a fast hard run will break in the rings sooner , but not necessarily true.Same as if you were to file down a burr would it come off faster if you move the file faster. No, it wont it will take just so many passes to remove that same amount of metal fast or slow.In modern day engines there is a slight wear in period but once that wear is evenly distributed the rings will ride on an molecular oil sheet and no longer touches the metal cylinder wall. Fast or slow this wear in period will not change . It is based on revolutions and not on how hard you work the engine.Many tuners believe that the best approach is to moderately stress a new engine and most importanty to vary the RPMs so that the rings will seat more evenly.
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Quick update on my scooter.

What with Christmas and work, haven't used or been too far on it yet, in fact have only done 150 miles in the couple of weeks since I picked it up.

Today, however, had a short, 30 mile run out, catching up on things after the Christmas period. On return, left it outside to cool off, then gave it a good wash down, dried off and polished up with Mers. ACF50 brushed onto exposed metal and bolts, now looking awesome again.

Purchased a couple of BungiCords to secure a bag onto the rear of the saddle, see how it goes, have been looking at a Givi Tail Bag, but no rush at this time.

Hopefully it will get used a bit more over the next few weeks and months, early days, but still really happy with my purchase.
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JetPilot wrote:
You are not doing your scooter any good by using the outdated " Running In Period ". Educate yourself a bit, and take 5 minutes to read this article. I use this on all my new bikes and have confirmed it to be accurate. Almost all the aluminum powder I get out of the oil is in the first 50 miles, exactly as this guy says. REALITY: The first thing 90 % of riders want to know is how fast their scooter or motorcycle is, and go full throttle for a bit on the first ride. If this were wrong, almost EVERY bike and scooter would be burning oil, etc. etc.

http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

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Chapel77, Welcome! I don't have a top box either. I keep a folded-in-half backpack, and two small spider cargo nets in my seat for any unplanned cargo. It has worked well for almost two years! (Oh, and white PCXs are the fastest!)
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Brent wrote:Chapel77, Welcome! I don't have a top box either. I keep a folded-in-half backpack, and two small spider cargo nets in my seat for any unplanned cargo. It has worked well for almost two years! (Oh, and white PCXs are the fastest!)
Sticking to a fleece blanket to cover rear of saddle and the bodywork aft of that. Couple of bungi-cords to secure a bag.......sorted!

Mind I have to disagree on white being the fastest colour, we all know red is!!!!!
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So, my PCX is booked in for its running in service, free as part of the deal I got. Haven't done as many miles as expected due to work, weather etc.

Have also ordered a new Givi screen today, noticed a bit of wind buffering when above 40-45mph, so will give this a try.

Have also noticed how dirty the PCX gets around the exhaust and transmission cover in this mucky weather, far more than my previous scooters. Glad I invested in some ACF50!
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Screen delivered and fitted today, 10 minute job if that, took longer to take some photos.

Not been out with it yet, hopefully tomorrow!
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Any problem getting that piece of plastic off (Grill) to get access to the windscreen holddowns?
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PCX150Rider wrote:Any problem getting that piece of plastic off (Grill) to get access to the windscreen holddowns?
No problems whatsoever. Used a crosshead screwdriver to remove the two screws holding the grill in place, then with both thumbs on the headlight and fingers on the grill on the flat section below the screen, and pulled downwards and forwards and it pulls off really easily. Two 10mm bolts on each side holds the screen in place. Putting a new screen on is just the reverse.

Was a bit apprehensive initially, especially as no instructions came with the screen, but a quick search on YouTube was the answer! One thing I would mention is in all the videos I viewed, they all used a plastic tool to lift the grill away from the headlight, don't as this is a sure way of cracking the panel and scratching the headlight!

Now I just need some time to run my PCX out!
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Jolly good!

Well described. . .

Thanks! 8)
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Chapel77 wrote:...... took longer to take some photos .....
And even longer to post the photos .... no pics and it didn't happen. ;) :lol: :lol:
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Took photos on my camera, too big to upload onto here.

If anyone can advise how to resize I will put them up here!

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Took photos on my camera, too big to upload onto here.
To resize your photos you would need a software application like Photo Shop or Paint Shop Pro. . .

There's others as well but those two are quite popular.

Then you follow the instructions. . .

For a basic "nothing fancy" application just use "Microsoft Paint". If you have a newer version of Windows just open up Paint (you may find it in Windows Accessories). The open the image file you want. Choose resize. You can resize by percentage or pixels. Apply the resize and then "save as".

I found when I took pictures using 14MP with my camera that the file sizes were huge and unless I was going to make a quality print to hang on a wall it was not practical.

So I use only a few MP (mega pixels) and the file sizes are a lot smaller and easier to work with and resize.
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You might look into pixresizer (http://bluefive.pair.com/pixresizer.htm)
Free, easy, and works fine for me on Windows 10. One pic or a whole directory, and you don't screw with the original. If you don't like it, delete it. I have been using it to resize 5 mp camera pics to 200 k (or so) for a couple of forums and it works like a charm.
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Just use M$ Paint that comes bundled with W!nd0wZ and make it smaller than 1024x768:
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Thanks for your advice.

Time dependant, will have a play with my photos today and post what I have.

Probably start a new thread!
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