most of these thefts avoidable with use of a disc lock

[flyingzonker]

[flyingzonker]

If you do use a disc lock, it is important to find some way to remind yourself STRONGLY that it is there when you are getting ready to take off. I always park my bike against a parking curb or a wall before I apply the disc lock--that way when I forget it is on, I am reminded by getting pulled up short when I start to back away from the obstacle. This procedure has saved me from wrecking my disc more times than I care to divulge.

[gn2]

Useful gadget: https://www.amazon.co.uk/2-766450-Disc- ... B001AXLSGQ

[flyingzonker]

Useful gadget: https://www.amazon.co.uk/2-766450-Disc- ... B001AXLSGQ

Funny thing: Right after I checked this out, following the link, I went over to the motorcycle dealership in Elmhurst (think Chicago) to see about getting another scooter. While there I wandered over to one side of the showroom where they had motorcycle gear on display. Hanging from a peg board I spied exactly the piece of merchandise you are recommending. Oh well, the world is full of weird little coincidences.

I have tried reminders of this sort but somehow I have been able to completely ignore their presence and--with the lock still in place on the disc and the reminding string or cord still in place on the handlebars--tried to back off from the parking curb so I could fire up and dash off. The only thing that saved me (and continues to do so) is to fix it so I have to back up before I can charge forward.

[Newsasquatch]

I watched the video and it's crazy how these thieves can steal it so quickly without any tools. I think an alarm, as well as two disk locks would ensure that it wouldn't be stolen.

[flyingzonker]

The locks would certainly serve as a potent deterrent. The combo disc lock/alarm is something I had no luck with. I don't think they have all the bugs out of that format yet. On my lock/alarm the alarm kept going off whenever for whatever. I got tired of digging it out of my trunk and turning it off. I wound up removing the battery and using the lock sans alarm and this works out very well. Even should the alarm have worked as designed, it was not really loud enough to be greatly useful. Maybe on a quiet night--no wind, no traffic noise--with the bike parked right under your bedroom window, the alarm might help you save your bike.

[gn2]

I have tried reminders of this sort but somehow I have been able to completely ignore their presence

If fitted correctly it can't be ignored.
The plain end goes on the lock, the end with the ring and the lace is for the handlebar end.
The ring goes on the brake lever and the lace goes over the handlebar.
You now can't get a hold of the handlebar properly because the reminder is in the way.

[flyingzonker]

[quote="gn2
If fitted correctly it can't be ignored.
The plain end goes on the lock, the end with the ring and the lace is for the handlebar end.
The ring goes on the brake lever and the lace goes over the handlebar.
You now can't get a hold of the handlebar properly because the reminder is in the way.[/quote]

Well, I'll take your word for it. I have not used the device your connected to the link you provided. My cord was reminder device was homemade and not homemade well.

Still, even with the reminder wound round the brake lever, I would still park in front of something that I would have to back away from--I suffer, you see, from PTSD from the time when I wrecked my rotor with the lock that was meant to save it, along with the rest of the bike.

[flyingzonker]

I watched the video and it's crazy how these thieves can steal it so quickly without any tools. I think an alarm, as well as two disk locks would ensure that it wouldn't be stolen.

Another thing: Disc locks are good for many situations, but they can be gamed by an enterprising thief. Bikes with the lock on the front rotor are particularly vulnerable--the malefactor may take a wrench to your axle nut and pull your wheel, whereupon he will install another, lockless wheel and ride off with your wheel bungied to the pillion seat--later to reappear, along with the rest of your bike (disguised as 100 parts for a 2013 PCX, or 2014, or whatever you had) on Ebay or Craigslist, or both.

Another nifty trick, when the bike is front wheel locked, is to take a small caster wheeled dolly, lift the front wheel onto it and trundle the bike off to a waiting van.

With the PCX a bet better than a disc lock might be a beefy chain locked through the back wheel to the swing arm.

[triaxor]

I watched the video and it's crazy how these thieves can steal it so quickly without any tools. I think an alarm, as well as two disk locks would ensure that it wouldn't be stolen.

Another thing: Disc locks are good for many situations, but they can be gamed by an enterprising thief. Bikes with the lock on the front rotor are particularly vulnerable--the malefactor may take a wrench to your axle nut and pull your wheel, whereupon he will install another, lockless wheel and ride off with your wheel bungied to the pillion seat--later to reappear, along with the rest of your bike (disguised as 100 parts for a 2013 PCX, or 2014, or whatever you had) on Ebay or Craigslist, or both.

Another nifty trick, when the bike is front wheel locked, is to take a small caster wheeled dolly, lift the front wheel onto it and trundle the bike off to a waiting van.

With the PCX a bet better than a disc lock might be a beefy chain locked through the back wheel to the swing arm.

Best to anchor the PCX to a point in the ground like a pole or something as just sticking a chain through the back wheel , it would take just 2 guys to pick up the PCX and put it into the back of a van/pickup or whatever

[you you]

Disk locks = knife at a gunfight

[honkerman]

The only foolproof anti-theft device.

[Newsasquatch]

Lol, yeah but in seeing these theft videos, a simple alarm and disk lock--though not the end-all be-all-- would have definitely prevented these particular thefts. Sure, there will always be workarounds but the risk-benefit ratio wouldn't be as desirable. I don't see why there has to be either no security precautions with full coverage, or a ton of security with liability. You'll still pay a deductible with increased insurance rates if you file a claim.

[flyingzonker]

Lol, yeah but in seeing these theft videos, a simple alarm and disk lock--though not the end-all be-all-- would have definitely prevented these particular thefts. Sure, there will always be workarounds but the risk-benefit ratio wouldn't be as desirable. I don't see why there has to be either no security precautions with full coverage, or a ton of security with liability. You'll still pay a deductible with increased insurance rates if you file a claim.

The prevalent attitude with a great number of our countrymen these days seems to be "all or nothing". I think what you are suggesting here is a better way, namely: Do what you reasonably can.

Here are somethings you might think about:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Five-Ways-to-Ke ... rmvSB=true

[Jge64]

I'll never use a disc lock because eventually no matter how many visual aids I have, I will roll forward on it and lock the bike up. Also I don't like bending down to fiddle with it.Been there, done that. Instead, I have an alarm that I mounted in the bike that is motion sensitive -100 db scream , and a cable lock that goes around the back tire and up over the seat. and then full coverage on the bike.