Redlights and small scooters
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Redlights and small scooters
In South Florida, most intersections use vehicle sense schemes as described in this writeup:
http://www.wikihow.com/Trigger-Green-Traffic-Lights
My 1984 NN50MD has the ferrous metal content of a hefty flyswatter, and my new PCX125 isn't much better at being acknowledged at intersections.
I took the video's advice and sprung for a small box of similar rare earth magnets:
http://www.amazon.com/BYKES-Neodymium-M ... m_indust_8
I place two end to end, and duct taped them up to both of my scooters underside.
Low and behold, they did the trick, and the red lights no longer discriminate me and my little ride...
FWIW....
http://www.wikihow.com/Trigger-Green-Traffic-Lights
My 1984 NN50MD has the ferrous metal content of a hefty flyswatter, and my new PCX125 isn't much better at being acknowledged at intersections.
I took the video's advice and sprung for a small box of similar rare earth magnets:
http://www.amazon.com/BYKES-Neodymium-M ... m_indust_8
I place two end to end, and duct taped them up to both of my scooters underside.
Low and behold, they did the trick, and the red lights no longer discriminate me and my little ride...
FWIW....
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
Interesting trick - I might give it a try when the weather breaks. I do have one light that I hit on not rare occasion that has been problematic.
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
I haven't checked recently but last year I put two magnets on my cenerstand and they seemed to do the trick. However, I haven't checked lately to see if they are still there. The scooters are stored for the winter right now. This discussion reminds me to go down there and check.
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
I hop off and press the pedestrian crossing buttons.
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
I've thought about that a couple of times maddiedog but didn't want light to change before I could get back on. Have been tempted to call to pedestrians jaywalking to press button for me(other side of street cross button doesn't work so we all just have to jaywalk on campus). My intermediate programming course is a 20 minute route walking or 6 minute by scooter, but I kinda enjoy walking instead of sharing roads with these inpatient people
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
In Wisconsin motorcycles may cross against a red light if you have waited at least 45 seconds, the signal is car activated and you may proceed safely. I know other states have similar laws. Check your motorcycle laws.
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I just do it anyways when it never changes. I have to jaywalk that street all the time since the button doesn't work
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
I tried magnets on my CBR250R. I lined one side of the ferrous swing arm with giant heo magnets I stripped from a worn out wind mill. It doesn't work. No difference. If the light doesn't change, it is considered to be malfuntioning. At which point, you treat it like a flashing red according to law and proceed when it is safe. We had a big discussion at the 250 forum with a few people trying it and it magnets generally do not make any difference.
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
My understanding of the buttons for pedestrians is that they don't usually activate the light, they simply make sure that the walk signal stays on long enough for the average pedestrian to clear he crosswalk, contrary to popular believe that they trigger the light to change.
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Must be different there in Thailand then
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
It depends on the light. A lot of the ones in the USA aren't even hooked up. The ones that are in my area change the light almost immediately (within seconds), so you have to RUN back to your bike if you hit them.kramnala58 wrote:My understanding of the buttons for pedestrians is that they don't usually activate the light, they simply make sure that the walk signal stays on long enough for the average pedestrian to clear he crosswalk, contrary to popular believe that they trigger the light to change.
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Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
Re: Redlights and small scooters
RusticCharm wrote:In Wisconsin motorcycles may cross against a red light if you have waited at least 45 seconds, the signal is car activated and you may proceed safely. I know other states have similar laws. Check your motorcycle laws.
Yep. That's what I do.
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
Have you found this in writing anywhere?RusticCharm wrote:In Wisconsin motorcycles may cross against a red light if you have waited at least 45 seconds, the signal is car activated and you may proceed safely. I know other states have similar laws. Check your motorcycle laws.
I'd love to keep a copy of that statute with both my PCX and my Triumph. I get stuck waiting all the time and always end up running the light.
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
I have a rare earth magnet on my oil drain plug, it does double duty of helping to activate traffic signals and picking up ferrous material in the oil.
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
MKE PCX Page 9 of 2014 Wisconsin motorcyclists' handbook contains motorcycle red light law. Can be found on line..
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
Awesome. Thanks.RusticCharm wrote:MKE PCX Page 9 of 2014 Wisconsin motorcyclists' handbook contains motorcycle red light law. Can be found on line..
I've got one of those at home somewhere.
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
We have that option here in IllinoisRusticCharm wrote:In Wisconsin motorcycles may cross against a red light if you have waited at least 45 seconds, the signal is car activated and you may proceed safely. I know other states have similar laws. Check your motorcycle laws.
I have a bunch of these super magnets... Cool! I think I will attach them to my boot rather than the scooter.
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
I tried a dozen gigantic neo magnets I robbed out of a windmill all along the swing arm of my 250R. And then stacked all along the lower plastic spoiler under the engine. They changed nothing in trying to trip the red light sensors on two different places along my commute.dkazzed wrote:rare earth magnet .
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Magnets will never work on the optical sensors. Several lights here have those. Sometimes flashing your high beams or turning slightly will affect them. Personally my opinion is they should not be allowed unless they can detect all legal motorized vehicles!
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Re: Redlights and small scooters
Obviously. The optical sensors work fine for motorcycles. The inductive sensors in the pavement rarely work and even gigantic magnets don't make any difference since you really need to affect the whole, car shaped loop. So you are left with sitting there until someone pulls up behind you. Or considering it as defective. Which it is. At which point it is legal to proceed as if it were a flashing red.speedandstyle wrote:Magnets will never work on the optical sensors.