Nitrogen dampening action via a small knob, allowing to dial in the perfect setting for your particular riding conditions and preferences.
That's it? Does anyone know what the adjustable collar on top is used for? Sorry I didn't get instructions with these used ones and I'd like to test them properly.
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 2:33 pm
by Jge64
The collar at the top is the same as coilovers for a car, they let you adjust the length of the shock so you can raise/lower the bike a bit. In turn ,it adjusts the preload of the spring at the same time.
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 2:39 pm
by PCX150Rider
Never used these kind of shocks. Just the regular ones with the spring pre-load adjustments. May eventually get a pair though as the stock ones wear out. . ..
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 3:04 pm
by homie
Oh jack it up a little, that might be nice!
Thanks
And the little screw above that probably lets the magic smoke out. Probably don't want to mess with that
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 4:16 pm
by chicaboo
Jge64 wrote:The collar at the top is the same as coilovers for a car, they let you adjust the length of the shock so you can raise/lower the bike a bit. In turn ,it adjusts the preload of the spring at the same time.
They won't change the stroke length, they just increase the compression (pre-load) on the spring to make them firmer. They are always 310mm long CC for example.
The dial at the bottom increases or decreases the eyelet that the oil passes through to increase or decrease the damping rate (bump only usually, but not rebound).
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 6:47 pm
by grndslm
I definitely noticed that the rear shocks could use some improvement....
What's the model # on these?
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 8:34 pm
by homie
Well poo... Jge64 got me all excited!
I appreciate the instructions chickaboo and even though these are more about ball cushions then a lift kit... I still love ya Jge64
Whisper'ers
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 9:10 pm
by homie
grndslm wrote:What's the model # on these?
No model number. Don't buy these until I see what all the hubub is about. Stock shocks never bothered me, the seller price was too tempting so I'll give em a go. Might be a big O'l money flush they sure are purdy though.
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 9:17 pm
by chicaboo
grndslm wrote:I definitely noticed that the rear shocks could use some improvement....
What's the model # on these?
The best value shocks are YSS Z series without the oil reservoirs.
PCXdemon and I have both had our YSS G-Euro shocks leak...
The newer G-Plus shocks with the reservoir at the top may not leak?
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 10:08 pm
by grndslm
What's the difference between the Z-series and the V-series (called "hybrid")??
The marking in packaging printed as follow:
YSS V-Series
TB220-315P-05-11-XD
Hybrid-S220 PCX Chrome/Chrome
220 is the shock type number and 315 is the shock size in mm
and Chrome/Chrome being the color of the shock,
other color option being Black-Red but I choose Chrome
because from my previous experience on other scooter with
red painted shock absorber the paint will easily get scratch
I want to upgrade this immediately, but I'll more than likely turn this into a Winter upgrade after seeing more comparisons of the NCY and YYS shocks...
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 2:34 am
by chicaboo
grndslm wrote:What's the difference between the Z-series and the V-series (called "hybrid")??
W, X and Y?
No idea sorry, find the specs and compare, look at the prices and make a choice.
Also, YSS are half the price of NCY, so it's up to you if you want to wait or not...
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 11:03 am
by Mel46
Fancy! Gee, what else do they do?
Wait!! Don't touch those dials! If you connect a monitor you can watch the next TV show!...or you can turn that little dial and watch the local news, weather, and traffic. :-)
What ever happened to the good old days of changing shocks on a PCX, turning one dial, and riding off into the sunset??
If you get those shocks, let us know how they are as apposed to say, YSS shocks. (You really can't compare any aftermarket shocks to the bottom line ones that come with the PCX.)
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 7:45 pm
by homie
There IS an easier way. Honda should have two holes in the luggage box. Snap out covers over the holes (remove and replace) and shocks would take ten minutes to install. So silly to take down the bike like this... oops youtube's going to tag this for the song in the background, I should know better video probably won't be up long
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 9:03 pm
by chicaboo
If you're crafty with small delicate petite hands/wrists (Asian), you can get away with just removing the grab rail and lifting the back of the bin.
I am not blessed with such qualities, so I take the whole seat storage bucket/bin thing out, but leave all the side panels on (for the OWL anyway).
Homie: Make sure you increase your pre-load before putting the bodywork back on. Good luck doing it afterwards!
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 9:16 pm
by homie
chicaboo wrote: Homie: Make sure you increase your pre-load before putting the bodywork back on. Good luck doing it afterwards!
I haven't reassembled yet, are you suggesting one rides around without panels or seat messing with the pre-load There is a set screw on the pre-load ring so I will leave it loose, THANKS! Should be able to turn the collar fine with panels and leave the set screw in the best position for an allen wrench.
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 10:10 pm
by chicaboo
As a ballpark, I found 21mm or almost 7/8" to work OK for me. And funnily enough I've seen other people recommend that much pre-load, too.
Because my pre-load is adjusted from the bottom I don't have to remove stuff, but I can only do tiny 1/8 turns at a time, so it takes a while...
I might be soon increasing my pre-load to 25mm or 1" since I seem to be getting a bit (more) portly since the accident.
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 12:18 pm
by homie
Good to know Chicaboo, as for a review of the NCY Shock - I had a bigger WOW moment when I switched to oversized tires for comfort and looks. I'm sure these are fabulous shocks and 5 star eye candy but my balloon tires smoothed me out a long time ago. Glad I didn't pay too much for these shocks because they are pre-owned but the adjustments are noticeable.
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 7:18 pm
by markcap
homie wrote:Good to know Chicaboo, as for a review of the NCY Shock - I had a bigger WOW moment when I switched to oversized tires for comfort and looks. I'm sure these are fabulous shocks and 5 star eye candy but my balloon tires smoothed me out a long time ago. Glad I didn't pay too much for these shocks because they are pre-owned but the adjustments are noticeable.
Hey Homie, I am a brand new owner 2016 PCX. I took off that rear rack on Sat in order wire in my Shad top box brake light, lol
But hey I have a few questions.
1. Can you bore those holes while everything is in place with a hole saw kit?
2. I have brand new shocks but are those replacements worth the money if mine aren't bad? What I mean is, should i junk the stcok shocks now and go with the aftermarket and enjoy the new ride right away?
3. What are the sizes of the larger tires you mention?
Thanks,
Mark
Re: NCY shocks...
Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 8:38 pm
by PCX150Rider
I'll bet the reason they didn't put access holes for the shock fasteners in the underseat storage area is because they thought it may effect their claims of "weather resistant". Whatever you use to cover the holes up is going to have to withstand the carrier loads and yet be easy enough to install or remove when needed. It could be a job for "Gorilla Tape" unless you want to try something like a mechanical pipe plug or rubber stopper. The thing is I don't know if the mechanical plug will have enough material on the "pet carrier" to grab onto without distorting it. At the end of the day a simple piece of tape may be adequate.
markcap wrote: Hey Homie, I am a brand new owner 2016 PCX. I took off that rear rack on Sat in order wire in my Shad top box brake light, lol
But hey I have a few questions.
1. Can you bore those holes while everything is in place with a hole saw kit? I don't see why not but you should know I got distracted and wondered off the idea after fashioning a backup seat release mod. So this shock bolt access mod is on the back burner for me and maybe one of you people can take it through it's challenges, success or failure.
2. I have brand new shocks but are those replacements worth the money if mine aren't bad? What I mean is, should i junk the stcok shocks now and go with the aftermarket and enjoy the new ride right away? I have to say the adjustable aftermarket NCY shocks are only slightly better than stock with oversized tires for gaining a better ride sorry.
3. What are the sizes of the larger tires you mention? The front-120/70-14 & the rear-140/70-14 to get the rear in requires moving the airbox off 3/8" and raising rear fender 1/2". No modification is needed to the front end as the 120 fits fine as is. Michelin city grips
they sure are purdy though.