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Does variator same ESp model 2013 and Non Esp 2012 ? Thannk

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Does variator same ESp model 2013 and Non Esp 2012 ?
So I do have part number for Non eSp model for roller: it's 22123-KWN-900 Set of weights

Will they fit to EsP 2013 Variator ?

Are they really different ?


For EsP I do have this number: 22123KWN710


WHAT is same in CVT Esp and Non Esp ?
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Please help!!!
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They are slightly different, but interchangeable. :)
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maddiedog wrote:They are slightly different, but interchangeable. :)
Thanks. But how do you know that?
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I know that because I spend WAY too much time reading about the PCX. ;)

In all seriousness though, all aftermarket rollers are marketed for the 125, 125eSP, and 150.

The only thing I know of that's not interchangable are the belts. They are slightly different in length varying between the 125, 125esp, 150, and new 150.

The rollers will fit fine, but may weigh a different amount, which will affect your acceleration.
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You need to understand that Dave has not only worked on his non-Esp Pcx 125, now a 170, but also our Esp 150s. There are some differences to be sure, but most of the pre 2015 pcx parts are interchangeable. In fact, when my wife dropped her 2013 PCX 150 I ordered replacement panels for a 2011 model from Bikebandit and they fit perfectly. I would not have done that if I hadn't known Dave and checked with him. In fact, he helped me replace the bad panels. I have learned a lot from him, so just trust that he speaks from experience.
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Dave is correct, i ordered a malossi multivar(designed for 2010/11 pcx 125) for my 2012 esp 125 and it slotted straight in with no issues for over 2 years....also gave extra top speed and acceleration compared to stock.
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Mel46 wrote:You need to understand that Dave has not only worked on his non-Esp Pcx 125, now a 170, but also our Esp 150s. There are some differences to be sure, but most of the pre 2015 pcx parts are interchangeable. In fact, when my wife dropped her 2013 PCX 150 I ordered replacement panels for a 2011 model from Bikebandit and they fit perfectly. I would not have done that if I hadn't known Dave and checked with him. In fact, he helped me replace the bad panels. I have learned a lot from him, so just trust that he speaks from experience.
We also swapped variators when we were troubleshooting that churning noise that ended up being the final drive bearings too, further proving your point. :)
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Re: Does variator same ESp model 2013 and Non Esp 2012 ? Th

Post by PCX 125 CANDY RED »

Dear best-buyer,

Hi I have checked the parts catalog for pcx 125 from 2009 to 2014.
Also pcx 150 from 2012 to 2014 and they are the same part number/model number and batch number.. 19 grams per weight 20mm x 15mm . 22123-KWN-900
The pcx range share a lot of the same components,some components have been revised but will still fit early models.
I use a pcx 150 2012 model but use the 2015 weights ...22123-K36-TOO the same part number different model number and batch number because they are 15 grams each . The first number is the part number- the second reference to model-then batch.
Parts are revised all the time the first numbers are unique to a particular part.
There are a lot of models that share the same parts,its like lots of different bikes share the same tire's and there can be many different brands to fit the same bike.
I always try to cross reference as much as possible.
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