Fuel Stabilizers

Scottish · Post by **Scottish** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:32 am

If your bike is sitting dormant at what point should you be adding fuel stabilizer?
Also is there any brand thats specifically good for the PCX?

DAB · Post by **DAB** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:04 am

Don't bother.

Drifter · Post by **Drifter** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:25 am

Yes Yes and Yes, ethanol will jell and absorb water over time. Known Fact!! My lawn tractor, new cub cadet sat for 3 months...wont run had to remove and clean the carb i forgot......! There are 27 diff. blends of gas used in the US some better than others....ask yourself is peace of mind worth a couple ozs of stabil?

I have done this same thing on several motorcycles, 4 wheelers etc. Ethanol is a total SCAM!

What works is Marine sta bil. Startron. I have used both MARINE sta-bil is the best.

SECoda · Post by **SECoda** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:52 am

Yes but always use brand new gas. You can't refresh old gas in the bike. Drain it. I use both Marine Sta-Bil (stabilizer) and Seafoam (fuel build-up solvent) all year round. They do different things. I have used them for many years w/o issue including an airplane engine for hundreds of hours.

My sister-in-law is a retired chemist from one of the giant refineries near me (Shell) and says even the refineries use stabilizers (chemicals like Sta-Bil) at times for their own storage (she mentioned toluene). She is a big proponent and says there are many additives in gas for all kinds of things right from the refinery but not these two mainly because of cost.

DAB · Post by **DAB** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:04 am

From BP .....

SECoda · Post by **SECoda** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:29 am

Oil is stabilizing at about $67 a barrel (crude). That is near perfect for the market. Hopefully, it stays in the mid 60s to 70s for quite a while.

you you · Post by **you you** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:38 pm

Scottish wrote:If your bike is sitting dormant at what point should you be adding fuel stabilizer?
Also is there any brand thats specifically good for the PCX?

Depends on your personality really.

I've got a bike that has three year old supermarket fuel in it. Still works perfectly.

Put some in. You wouln't know if it's worked or it hasn't but you might feel better

SECoda · Post by **SECoda** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:02 pm

The way my brother proved the value of Sta-Bil and Seafoam is that he collects chainsaws for the trees on his farm. (I know he should get a life) He has four Poulan cheapies that are all the same model. He chose the two newest ones not to treat at all but he treats the other six with both products. Within two years both untreated Poulan's would no longer even idle. (carbureted Kymco scooters are notorious for this). He took them apart. The reason is the small passageways/jets clog up with varnish/gum from the fuel aging. One he cleaned and reassembled and it ran fine again. The other he treated with a strong tank mixed of Seafoam alone w/o cleaning. Both run perfectly again.

DAB · Post by **DAB** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:07 pm

About a week ago I started a 1100 Yamaha for the first time, in what I thought was 2 years. Worked fine and ticked over perfectly. Just checked when I last filled it, 28/3/2012.

you you · Post by **you you** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:26 pm

DAB wrote:About a week ago I started a 1100 Yamaha for the first time, in what I thought was 2 years. Worked fine and ticked over perfectly. Just checked when I last filled it, 28/3/2012.

Eggsflippinsacterly

Alibally · Post by **Alibally** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:55 pm

U.S. Fuel must be different to euro fuel. The stuff here has to be years old before it goes off.

frog13 · Post by **frog13** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:11 pm

Sta-Bil in fresh fuel .

jkautz · Post by **jkautz** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:29 pm

I filled it up, put Stabil in it, and also 2oz's of Lucas injector cleaner. Probably won't ride it until March

homie · Post by **homie** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:53 pm

What's wrong with starting them up for a few minutes once a week, I really miss being able to throttle up even if I can't go out in the snow

Then do I have to put weird stuff through my fuel injector system?

you you · Post by **you you** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:07 pm

homie wrote:What's wrong with starting them up for a few minutes once a week, I really miss being able to throttle up even if I can't go out in the snow Then do I have to put weird stuff through my fuel injector system?

Nope. For once we are with you Homie and you aren't paranoid

Steph · Post by **Steph** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:29 pm

you you wrote:
homie wrote:What's wrong with starting them up for a few minutes once a week, I really miss being able to throttle up even if I can't go out in the snow Then do I have to put weird stuff through my fuel injector system?

Nope. For once we are with you Homie and you aren't paranoid

That's my plan. Start it up periodically.

SECoda · Post by **SECoda** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:44 pm

Holy hindered phenols. No chemistry majors here? You know what happens to bread w/o preservatives - especially with a lot of moisture. You can still eat it.

Why is it so hard to believe that gas can oxidize slowly too? Gas stabilizers work by stabilizing otherwise unstable aromatic hydrocarbons. Ever smell old gas - it sours? Gum and varnish in gas are oxidized hydrocarbons that turn into something else. Sta-Bil really works but it only slows the oxidation process down from a few months to 12-15 or so. I think I currently own a few dozens different engines and keeping up with all of them to be run every few months and have the fuel refreshed with new fuel isn't practical.

homie · Post by **homie** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:53 pm

SECoda wrote:Holy hindered phenols. No chemistry majors here? You know what happens to bread w/o preservatives - especially with a lot of moisture. You can still eat it. Why is it so hard to believe that gas can oxidize slowly too? Gas stabilizers work by stabilizing otherwise unstable aromatic hydrocarbons. Ever smell old gas - it sours? Gum and varnish in gas are oxidized hydrocarbons that turn into something else. Sta-Bil really works but it only slows the oxidation process down from a few months to 12-15 or so. I think I currently own a few dozens different engines and keeping up with all of them to be run every few months and have the fuel refreshed with new fuel isn't practical.

all right... I'll go buy some shit and stick it in there, but you clowns better not mess up my putt

DAB · Post by **DAB** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:03 pm

Steph wrote:
you you wrote:
homie wrote:What's wrong with starting them up for a few minutes once a week, I really miss being able to throttle up even if I can't go out in the snow Then do I have to put weird stuff through my fuel injector system?

Nope. For once we are with you Homie and you aren't paranoid
That's my plan. Start it up periodically.

If you want to put stabiliser in ok, won't do any damage, but it is not necessary. If you regularly start the bike, don't forget to charge the battery as starting uses a lot of power which will not be replace by just running it a few minutes.

DAB · Post by **DAB** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:07 pm

jkautz wrote:I filled it up, put Stabil in it, and also 2oz's of Lucas injector cleaner. Probably won't ride it until March

Don't you ride all year in California?

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