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Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:43 am
by djcat
In my quest to get the scooter winter proof, I got a pair of these handlebar muffs: http://www.polo-motorrad.de/en/lenkerst ... 97331.html

Tried them yesterday and was scared by the fact that they compress the lever! Depending on how I move my hands and arms, the compression was quite significant. Did any of you put handlebar windbreakers on and whats your experience?

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:41 am
by gn2
Yes, many years ago I experimented with them and experienced what you found regarding braking.
Once I got them properly set up the brake wasn't affected.
These days I don't bother with them, instead I just use decent gloves.

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:11 am
by you you
gn2 wrote:Yes, many years ago I experimented with them and experienced what you found regarding braking.
Once I got them properly set up the brake wasn't affected.
These days I don't bother with them, instead I just use decent gloves.

I just use the car

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:21 am
by gn2
On snow/ice risk days its the car for me too.

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:17 pm
by djcat
I will sure use the car or walk on snow or ice, still it can get pretty cold even without both of them. Those muffs I got are pretty standard, can't really adjust them in any way I am afraid.

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:44 pm
by brains_t
djcat wrote:I will sure use the car or walk on snow or ice, still it can get pretty cold even without both of them. Those muffs I got are pretty standard, can't really adjust them in any way I am afraid.
You must be referring to the deadly wind chill days, usually Jan/Feb around London when it is too cold for snow and too dry for ice except where pipes have frozen and burst.

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:52 pm
by philvb
djcat wrote:In my quest to get the scooter winter proof, I got a pair of these handlebar muffs. Tried them yesterday and was scared by the fact that they compress the lever! Depending on how I move my hands and arms, the compression was quite significant. Did any of you put handlebar windbreakers on and whats your experience?
Just got a set (different manufacturer) in the mail today. Put them on, and they are a tight squeeze. Not sure I am going to keep them. Will give them a try tomorrow while riding to work.

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Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:04 pm
by V4 TRV
If you get proper ones by Toucano Urbano there won't be any problems

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:09 pm
by philvb
V4 TRV wrote:If you get proper ones by Toucano Urbano there won't be any problems
Yeah, but the price on those is at least 5 times more than I paid for these ($15, including shipping). Considering I just laid out over $170 for my new seat, have to buy on a budget for the next few months. :(

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:42 am
by figurehead71
I think I prefer the idea of using heated grips and winter gloves myself.

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:54 am
by haildamage
V4 TRV wrote:If you get proper ones by Toucano Urbano there won't be any problems
i have those and have no problem with room for the levers. i also have heated grips and am must using uninsulated leather gloves so fra.

you could hack the end of the levers off or get some shorter levers if you are having a problem.

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:23 am
by FritzPinguin
figurehead71 wrote:I think I prefer the idea of using heated grips and winter gloves myself.
Lowest temperature at night here is about 21 Centigrade, so no need to worry ;)

SCNR

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:49 am
by haildamage
FritzPinguin wrote:
figurehead71 wrote:I think I prefer the idea of using heated grips and winter gloves myself.
Lowest temperature at night here is about 21 Centigrade, so no need to worry ;)

SCNR
that must be nice. guess you dont have any tips on keeping comfortable for winter riding then...

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:30 am
by tomtic
I've had this problem too - though to be honest I've not fitted the muffs to my PCX yet, but I have fitted them to several bikes in the past. My workaround is as follows:-
Fit one of the muffs and where you would ideally like the muff to stay in place (WITHOUT conflicting with the brake lever) mark the outside edge of the muff where you can feel the middle/centre of the barend (where the bolt is). Remove the muff, and then carefully pierce the outer edge of the muff where you have marked it. Just a very small hole, big enough for the bar-end bolt to go through. Remove the bar-end bolt from the handlebars, and refit the muff carefully. Now thread the bar-end bolt through the hole in the muff and tighten.
In the past I have used a small washer between the bar-end bolt and the muff material (to keep it tidy). You may also find that the bar-end bolt is now too short to fit back through the muff and into the threaded nut inside the handlebar. In this case you will need a longer bolt. :) I've had to do this a couple of times but not sure if the PCX bolts are long enough.
I have used this method on several bikes over several years and it greatly improves the fit of the muffs. It means your brakes don't drag, and perhaps more importantly, your rear brake light doesn't keep coming on as the wind pushes against your brake lever.
Hope this might help!
Tom

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:36 am
by djcat
tomtic: If this had a "like" feature like FB, I would like your response and thank you, too :-)

Thank you!

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:13 pm
by Cascanciu
I think that, safety put aside, I would invest in proper gloves or heated grips prior to fitting my bike with such a horrible looking thing.

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:15 pm
by haildamage
djcat wrote:tomtic: If this had a "like" feature like FB, I would like your response and thank you, too :-)

Thank you!
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Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:33 pm
by philvb
After giving these things a try, I've decided that my good old pair of winter gloves are a much safer, and cheaper option for me.

Re: Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:22 am
by you you
philvb wrote:After giving these things a try, I've decided that my good old pair of winter gloves are a much safer, and cheaper option for me.

And look less retardo :D

Handlebar muffs potential dangerous?

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:06 pm
by Alibally
qed wrote:
philvb wrote:After giving these things a try, I've decided that my good old pair of winter gloves are a much safer, and cheaper option for me.

And look less retardo :D
You right. They look minging.