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Scooter seat position...
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:57 am
by homie
Does anyone own both a humped model PCX and the newer LED PCX design? I wonder if there is any difference in saddle comfort given pictures like these. Honestly I don't see it

As for the Yamaha Xmax, an even more compact designed scooter with the same, if not more cramped seating position. They don't make these for American's comfort demands do they? Notice the handle bar position on XMax is forward of the delivered stock PCX bar position. You have some play with the PCX concerning handlebar position after purchase. I don't think you have any bar adjustability with Xmax given that design.
I believe the images below have been maintained in the best perspective I could find.
Re: Scooter seat position...
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:51 pm
by you you
I don't see it either. Certainly not the biggest problem I've ever faced...
Re: Scooter seat position...
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:03 pm
by Smaug
It just is a softer transition, but I don't see how scooting back to that sloped area would be comfortable. It would tend to roll one's butt forward uncomfortably.
I'm lucky that my legs are ALMOST Asian-short. (30" inseam) I can see why long-legged folks are crying out for aftermarket saddles.
One other thing to consider is that scooting one's weight rearward is not going to do any favors for desirable handling characteristics. A more rearward weigh bias is not good when cresting hills or carving corners on bumpy surfaces.
Re: Scooter seat position...
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:15 pm
by homie
Smaug wrote:One other thing to consider is that scooting one's weight rearward is not going to do any favors for desirable handling characteristics. A more rearward weigh bias is not good when cresting hills or carving corners on bumpy surfaces.
Agreed, although I saw a nut riding the pillion seat down the boulevard on a PCX the other day

He was obviously too tall for the little scooter. As for me, move the bars up as far as they will go, sit up straight and condition your butt with ride time on the stock saddle. It's less expensive and better for your posture.
Re: Scooter seat position...
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:59 pm
by k2apache6.0
Both seats are hampered by the design of the frame and its upward sweep but thats also how we get a decent sized luggage box. The distance between seat and bars is too short, on any PCX, even with the lower and further bars I just installed (pics coming). Its just a fact that this size scooter is a bit small for most westerners, I'm only 5'9" and it was enough of a problem to get a lowered and humpless seat and do the adjustable bar mod and it's much better, but a couple more inches to the bars would be better still.
Re: Scooter seat position...
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:12 pm
by homie
It looks to me like the first gen hump seat benefited the passenger more than driver. A homie might be able to pick up some honies

Hey, no joke a new Buell owner posted a question about an electrical connection to a device found installed in the pillion seat. He didn't know what it was and no one else did either until he hooked it up to the battery. Guess what? there are such devices found online designed to add a little encouragement to the passenger at the flip of a switch on a motorbike because guys... we just never quit trying

Re: Scooter seat position...
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:16 pm
by JohnL
Just occasionally I'm glad to be a shortarse 165cm (5'6"). The PCX LED model fits me like a glove, no mods necessary.
The only downside is when stopping I can only put one foot down, or tippytoe on both. It's never been much of a problem except one time soon after I got the bike, I stopped at a traffic light in an area where quarry trucks have caused humps in the bitumen, and made the mistake of stopping on the peak. I put my left foot down and there was no road under it, I just managed to stop laying the bike down. I'm very careful now to stop in the hollow and put my foot on the peak.
Since then the seat has softened and the leg stretch is negligible.
Just something else to think about on the bike and keep alert. Not a bad thing.

Re: Scooter seat position...
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:23 pm
by you you
homie wrote:It looks to me like the first gen hump seat benefited the passenger more than driver. A homie might be able to pick up some honies

Hey, no joke a new Buell owner posted a question about an electrical connection to a device found installed in the pillion seat. He didn't know what it was and no one else did either until he hooked it up to the battery. Guess what? there are such devices found online designed to add a little encouragement to the passenger at the flip of a switch on a motorbike because guys... we just never quit trying

Would you need that with a Buell?
Re: Scooter seat position...
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:25 pm
by PCX150Rider
Since then the seat has softened and the leg stretch is negligible.
How long or about how many miles (roughly) was it when you noticed the seat was finally starting to get more comfortable?

Re: Scooter seat position...
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:33 pm
by pattomike
Smaug wrote:It just is a softer transition, but I don't see how scooting back to that sloped area would be comfortable. It would tend to roll one's butt forward uncomfortably.
I'm lucky that my legs are ALMOST Asian-short. (30" inseam) I can see why long-legged folks are crying out for aftermarket saddles.
One other thing to consider is that scooting one's weight rearward is not going to do any favors for desirable handling characteristics. A more rearward weigh bias is not good when cresting hills or carving corners on bumpy surfaces.
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