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Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:45 pm
by doletotodole
After lengthy search, I decide to give my new PCX a try with car engine oil, namely the Mobil 1 gold 0w-40.

The official description: "For extreme conditions"

I reckon this oil should be OK.

Do you gents use car oils?

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:17 pm
by Vancho
doletotodole wrote:After lengthy search, I decide to give my new PCX a try with car engine oil, namely the Mobil 1 gold 0w-40.

The official description: "For extreme conditions"

I reckon this oil should be OK.

Do you gents use car oils?
Why not

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:28 pm
by Eiron
This would be an excellent choice for both your upcoming trip and general, year-round use at home.

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:21 pm
by doletotodole
Eiron wrote:This would be an excellent choice for both your upcoming trip and general, year-round use at home.
Thank you, Sir.

I noticed it is for extreme conditions, desert would be an extreme.

Some folks do use car oil here, their feedback is postive.

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:57 pm
by gn2
Oil is oil.
Anything in the correct viscosity for your environment will do.
But you would probably be better with the recommended 10w 30

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:55 am
by chicaboo
gn2 wrote:Oil is oil.
Anything in the correct viscosity for your environment will do.
But you would probably be better with the recommended 10w 30
But he's riding in the desert. :P

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Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:29 am
by Eiron
gn2 wrote:Oil is oil.
I disagree with this sentiment. Group IV synthetic oil is quite superior to conventional oil. Group III "synthetic" oil is somewhere between Group IV ("true" synthetic) and conventional oils. (And, while Group III oils can be legally sold in the US as "synthetic," they are not allowed to be labeled as such in Europe.)

gn2 wrote:Anything in the correct viscosity for your environment will do.
I do agree with this statement, as long as you're also including driving conditions and equipment conditions in your qualifications of "environment," and not just climate and/or geographic location.

gn2 wrote:But you would probably be better with the recommended 10w 30
I disagree with this. But then, we might have different goals. My goal is equipment longevity 1st, fuel economy 2nd, and oil cost 3rd. Typically, equipment manufacturers make oil recommendations based on a heavier bias towards fuel economy and oil cost. Because of these differences in goals, I'm typically going to choose (and recommend) oils that provide more equipment protection than what the manufacturer would recommend.

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:31 am
by Eiron
chicaboo wrote:But he's riding in the desert. :P

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:56 am
by Eiron
doletotodole wrote:Thank you, Sir.

I noticed it is for extreme conditions, desert would be an extreme.

Some folks do use car oil here, their feedback is postive.
Mobil's 0W-40 oil is factory fill on all Porsche vehicles, including all Porsche turbocharged engines.
There's not any more of an extreme condition than that. :D

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:02 pm
by you you
Eiron wrote:
doletotodole wrote:Thank you, Sir.

I noticed it is for extreme conditions, desert would be an extreme.

Some folks do use car oil here, their feedback is postive.
Mobil's 0W-40 oil is factory fill on all Porsche vehicles, including all Porsche turbocharged engines.
There's not any more of an extreme condition than that. :D
There probably is...

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:38 pm
by WhiteNoise
@ chicaboo, that's a Great pic! Would you please add that photo to the gallerie's "wallpaper photo's" thread? 8)

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:25 pm
by gn2
Eiron wrote:
gn2 wrote:Oil is oil.
I disagree with this sentiment.
Fair enough, fleshing it out a bit, for a PCX any automotive oil of the correct viscosity will do.

But only use the slippery kind, the sticky stuff is no good.

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:59 pm
by you you
gn2 wrote:
Eiron wrote:
gn2 wrote:Oil is oil.
I disagree with this sentiment.
Fair enough, fleshing it out a bit, for a PCX any automotive oil of the correct viscosity will do.

But only use the slippery kind, the sticky stuff is no good.
This is the sticky we need.

Before we all lose the will to live.

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:22 pm
by Eiron
you you wrote:
Eiron wrote:Mobil's 0W-40 oil is factory fill on all Porsche vehicles, including all Porsche turbocharged engines.
There's not any more of an extreme condition than that. :D
There probably is...
Ah yes, qualifiers .....

Yes, there are more extreme conditions. (Gas turbine engines would be just one example. But, as spinning engines (rather than reciprocating engines) those specify Group V (ester-based) oils, rather than Group IV (polyalphaolefin-based) or Group III (hydro-isomerized conventional-based) oils.)

So perhaps I should've said, "There's not any more of an extreme condition applicable to automobile engine oils than the High Temperature/High Shear environment (1,750°F/150,000 rpm) of a modern automobile engine's turbocharger."

:ugeek:

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:33 pm
by Eiron
gn2 wrote:
Eiron wrote:
gn2 wrote:Oil is oil.
I disagree with this sentiment.
Fair enough, fleshing it out a bit, for a PCX any automotive oil of the correct viscosity will do.
I still disagree, but I completely understand your reluctance to put expensive oil in a relatively inexpensive machine. The perceived ROI isn't great enough to warrant worrying about it.

gn2 wrote:But only use the slippery kind, the sticky stuff is no good.
I definitely agree. Wholeheartedly. ;)

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:38 pm
by Eiron
you you wrote:
gn2 wrote: Fair enough, fleshing it out a bit, for a PCX any automotive oil of the correct viscosity will do.

But only use the slippery kind, the sticky stuff is no good.
This is the sticky we need.
But if you made it a sticky, you'd be saying the quote is no good, wouldn't you?

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:29 pm
by doletotodole
gn2 wrote:
Eiron wrote:
gn2 wrote:Oil is oil.
I disagree with this sentiment.
Fair enough, fleshing it out a bit, for a PCX any automotive oil of the correct viscosity will do.

But only use the slippery kind, the sticky stuff is no good.

Hello, Sir,

What do you mean by "slippery or sticky?" is it the viscosity? is 0W-40 sticky or slippery?

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:57 pm
by you you
My will to live isn't where I put it last....

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:29 pm
by gn2
doletotodole wrote:Hello, Sir,
What do you mean by "slippery or sticky?" is it the viscosity? is 0W-40 sticky or slippery?
Its a joke.
There is no sticky motor oil, its all slippery and absolutely any half decent 10w30 will be fine.

Re: Car oil for my new PCX...

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:01 am
by Rickjds
you you wrote:My will to live isn't where I put it last....
Sorry, but why reply if you have nothing good to say? Yes, I've read many of your posts and you mostly attack people or contribute nothing relevant. I know that is your style of posting.

I'm sorry about my post about this, but your posts more than likely drive people away from the forum. If that what the forum wants, good for them and I will post a lot less or leave. I'm tired of reading sarcastic responses not just from you. A lot from other long time members too.

Yes you were here a long time, but like the saying goes, if you don't have anything good to say, don't say it.

I see the same questions asked too and don't contribute as many others help people find the information they need, but you could offer more help by asking people to search or better yet, provide useful links so people can learn. I post if I can help an no one else answers.

When you say things like
you you wrote:"This is the sticky we need. Before we all lose the will to live.
. Do you think that adds value to the forum? Don't post crap unless you are the king of crap giver.

I agree everyone has their own opinion, but this kind of responses drive people away from the forum. If that is your goal, I will be happy to leave. I hope the admins read this and if I'm banned, so be it. Treat people the way you want to be treated and if you think you are doing nothing wrong, this is NOT the forum for me and probably a lot more users.

Attack me all you want.