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One dosent make it the other isn't found for 30 hours because no reception in the black hills. I think before I take this trip I need a satellite phone or is there something you guys might suggest?

Nothing graphic or gross, sad but happy ending for him (found Jesus) More of a chance to learn a better way to survive my trip. So look at this as something we don't think about when we ride outside of our cities and cell towers.

Can we try and use "doesn't"

you you wrote:Can we try and use "doesn't"

absolutely... i'm on it
My thought watching this was peculiar, what is yours?

If you notice he managed his helmet off which I can't do without two hands and a lot of tugging. If that were me I would have absolutely hated to have my helmet on for 30 hours. I have no idea how EMT's would remove my Schuberth. It's full face non-modular with a unique proprietary strap system that doesn't allow it to pull off from the rear in a crash. The helmet fits very snug and if any neck or back injury I don't want to imagine how the heck they would get it off without torturing me.

homie wrote:

you you wrote:Can we try and use "doesn't"

absolutely... i'm on it
My thought watching this was peculiar, what is yours?

If you notice he managed his helmet off which I can't do without two hands and a lot of tugging. If that were me I would have absolutely hated to have my helmet on for 30 hours. I have no idea how EMT's would remove my Schuberth. It's full face non-modular with a unique proprietary strap system that doesn't allow it to pull off from the rear in a crash. The helmet fits very snug and if any neck or back injury I don't want to imagine how the heck they would get it off without torturing me.

I think so as well. If you have a broken sternum and broken ribs I don't think he would be able to hold up a camera to do a video. That would be excruciating painful and his breathing doesn't appear to be labored when he talks. He was talking upright from a hospital chair and doesn't look like any hospital bed to me. But then again what do I know ???? I hope he is well and he has learned something from this event.

easyrider wrote:But then again what do I know ???? I hope he is well and he has learned something from this event.

More information: http://abcnews.go.com/US/survivor-deadl ... d=43131557
Kevin Diepenbrock, 41, originally from Greenville, Texas, says his final goodbyes to his family after he and another motorcyclist crashed on a stretch of U.S. Highway 129 known as "The Dragon" on Oct. 15, 2016, and tumbled down a rocky embankment.

Diepenbrock tried to text his friends and family, but the messages didn’t send. Diepenbrock, who suffered two punctured lungs, 17 breaks in 12 ribs, and multiple spinal fractures, was found more than 24 hours after the crash.

He was airlifted to hospital when a couple heard his cries for help on the side on the road. The other motorcyclist, Phillip Polito, 29, of Perryville, Mo., died.

That is another reason for riding with a partner...at a reasonable speed. In Georgia there is a road that we like to call a mini Tail of the Dragon. I have seen riders go off that before, usually after passing every other rider on that road. Cell phones have a problem in that area too. Luckily there are a lot of riders the in that area all throughout the day. However, I have seen riders try to take on the Tail when sunset is on its way. That is NOT a smart move. If you crashed then you could be there for days and no one would know.

Mel46 wrote:That is another reason for riding with a partner...at a reasonable speed. In Georgia there is a road that we like to call a mini Tail of the Dragon. I have seen riders go off that before, usually after passing every other rider on that road. Cell phones have a problem in that area too. Luckily there are a lot of riders the in that area all throughout the day. However, I have seen riders try to take on the Tail when sunset is on its way. That is NOT a smart move. If you crashed then you could be there for days and no one would know.

I read he collided with his partner, would have to go back and look again to be sure. He said in his video he screwed up which probably will result in a confession if the family of the deceased is going to litigate. Very good suggestion Mel about setting out at twilight. I'm not a fan of group rides like you Mel and this is starting to look like one giant forced group ride on any day weather permits and even those that are not so good. I hear the bike traffic continuously and well after dark. This might not be a place for me

homie wrote:One dosent make it the other isn't found for 30 hours because no reception in the black hills. I think before I take this trip I need a satellite phone or is there something you guys might suggest?

Personal Locator Beacon. This may be what you need. According to Wikipedia: "The basic purpose of a distress radiobeacon is to help rescuers find survivors within the so-called "golden day" (the first 24 hours following a traumatic event) during which the majority of survivors can usually be saved."

http://www.sarsat.noaa.gov/emerbcns.html

"Personal Locator Beacons (PLBs)

PLBs are portable units that operate much the same as EPIRBs or ELTs. These beacons are designed to be carried by an individual person instead of on a boat or aircraft. Unlike ELTs and some EPIRBs, they can only be activated manually and operate exclusively on 406 MHz. And like EPIRBs and ELTs all PLBs also have a built-in, low-power homing beacon that transmits on 121.5 MHz. This allows rescue forces to home in on a beacon once the 406 MHz satellite system has gotten them "in the ballpark" (about 2-3 miles).Some newer PLBs also allow GPS units to be integrated into the distress signal. This GPS-encoded position dramatically improves the location accuracy down to the 100-meter level…that’s roughly the size of a football field!

In the United States, PLBs are now authorized for nationwide use. This authorization was granted by the FCC beginning July 1st, 2003.

Prior to July 1st, 2003 only residents of Alaska had been able to use PLBs. The Alaska PLB Program was set up to test the capabilities of PLBs and their potential impact on SAR resources. Since March of 1995, the experiment proved very successful and helped save nearly 400 lives while generating only a few false alerts. The success of the Alaska PLB program undoubtedly paved the way for nationwide usage of these devices.

If you need to register a 406 MHz PLB, you can now register online or you may download a beacon registration form from the registration website and then fax the form to us at: (301) 817-4565. For any other registration questions, please call us at: 1-888-212-SAVE (7283)."

Poor guy. Felt bad for him lying there while he listened to other bikes go by 50' away. OMG so close yet so far. But..He did quite well chatting with his camera. I would've been beside myself and probably in shock for hours. Him? He talks and gives the time of day. Who does that! Not I says me.

homie don't do the Dragon alone. Go with at least one other rider friend. Or, just don't do it. I've been tempted myself over the years, but would never do it with just me. Maybe you can get your wife to follow in the truck? You can stay connected via bluetooth too (right?) Or is the signal that bad?

I am so happy I don't have even a ghost of a ghost of a desire to fiddle with that "twisty" stuff.

Me neither I have been there and those curves are so radical you actually have to slow down significantly to make the curves properly if you do not you will go over. Lots of motorcyclists like to try it at speed and end up in crutches.I like the twisties too but don't want to slow down to a crawl to be safe, or risk life or limb at speed.