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Thieving Scum

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:30 pm
by Blubayou
Well 04:50 this morning my lad hears something outside. Looks out the window & there's a bloke sitting on my bike, who then calmly gets off and immediately does a runner, he does not look up or around.

The steering lock is smashed.

This is in a quiet Close, very early in the morning. Most Scum is asleep.

I believe a lookout must have tipped the thief off, sounds like a professional job to me.

Any advice?

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:55 pm
by gn2
Advice depends on damage done and your insurance excess and inch status.
If the scrimmage have only damaged the lock, fixing it yourself could be the best option.

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:45 pm
by Mel46
I know that this is after the fact but after it is fixed I wonder if you could purchase a "Scat Mat" that shocks cats or dogs that get up on your furniture. It either runs from a wall outlet with ano inline converter, or off of a 9 volt battery. I would go with the 9 volt battery. Then crank it up, put it on your seat, cover it with a towel that you have held on by a strap or two, and I will bet they will be sorry they messed with your bike.

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:52 pm
by homie
Mel46 wrote:I know that this is after the fact but after it is fixed I wonder if you could purchase a "Scat Mat" that shocks cats or dogs that get up on your furniture. It either runs from a wall outlet with ano inline converter, or off of a 9 volt battery. I would go with the 9 volt battery. Then crank it up, put it on your seat, cover it with a towel that you have held on by a strap or two, and I will bet they will be sorry they messed with your bike.
LOL he would have more than a damaged ignition. Once my dad got tire of Chief walking back from the bar and stopping to pee every night on the car port in the alley. So he rigged up something similar and Chief never pee'd again.

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:20 pm
by gn2
gn2 wrote:Advice depends on damage done and your insurance excess and inch status.
If the scrimmage have only damaged the lock, fixing it yourself could be the best option.
Hmmm, the auto correct on my phone has gone into overdrive....
Inch should have been ncb, scrimmage should have been scumbags

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:36 pm
by flyingzonker
I wonder if it's worth the bother to fix the steering lock. All these devices seem to do is give thieves a little preliminary exercise before they get down to stealing bikes.

Put a disc lock on the front wheel. Lock a chain through the back wheel and the swing arm. Make it hard to steal, and make it look hard too.

If you don't have a secured garage you can keep it in, wheel it into the house. Anything is better (almost) than a stolen bike.

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:39 pm
by kramnala58
gn2 wrote:
gn2 wrote:Advice depends on damage done and your insurance excess and inch status.
If the scrimmage have only damaged the lock, fixing it yourself could be the best option.
Hmmm, the auto correct on my phone has gone into overdrive....
Inch should have been ncb, scrimmage should have been scumbags
:lol: :lol: I was wondering about that. I lived in the UK at one time, and didn't recall those idioms. But what is ncb? Is it a UK insurance term?

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:17 pm
by outlander
Yes he means insurance no claims bonus.

Scumbags, I had the same experience to when I lived in England. No one tries that crap now. Not unless they want some 45 Acp.

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:32 am
by iceman
Get a decent chain, 15mm thick or such so normal bolt cutters wont be any use and a good place to lock it to - and one of those cheap Ebay blu-tooth movement alarm sender things.

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:50 am
by kramnala58
Mel46 wrote:I know that this is after the fact but after it is fixed I wonder if you could purchase a "Scat Mat" that shocks cats or dogs that get up on your furniture. It either runs from a wall outlet with ano inline converter, or off of a 9 volt battery. I would go with the 9 volt battery. Then crank it up, put it on your seat, cover it with a towel that you have held on by a strap or two, and I will bet they will be sorry they messed with your bike.
Mel, as absurd as it seems, if you do something like what you suggest in the US, you will actually be held liable if the person is injured or decides to sue. It seem bizarre, but that is the law. :o o_O

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:14 am
by homie
kramnala58 wrote:
Mel46 wrote:I know that this is after the fact but after it is fixed I wonder if you could purchase a "Scat Mat" that shocks cats or dogs that get up on your furniture. It either runs from a wall outlet with ano inline converter, or off of a 9 volt battery. I would go with the 9 volt battery. Then crank it up, put it on your seat, cover it with a towel that you have held on by a strap or two, and I will bet they will be sorry they messed with your bike.
Mel, as absurd as it seems, if you do something like what you suggest in the US, you will actually be held liable if the person is injured or decides to sue. It seem bizarre, but that is the law. :o o_O
Yes those were the good O'l days when you just dealt with problems yourself and the criminals never thought to seek retribution through the courts and judges wouldn't hear them if they did. If you parked in the crosswalk like people do now at the grocery store the old man would climb up and walk over the hood of your beater car in his cowboy boots... looking back these memories make me proud.

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:24 am
by Mel46
That is really Crazy! We have a problem with the neighbor'S cat and had to resort to one of those to keep it off. So now I have to worry about some dips hit who tries to steal my bike because he might get hurt while in the process??

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:33 am
by homie
Mel you are suppose to have companion for the under privileged who would be so disparate to resort to theft. The criminal is the victim Mel you know that. You are just showing off to have something nice sitting in the parking lot and its not fair. Everyone should be given a new scooter and large successful business should be made to pay for them :)

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:02 am
by Mel46
And we shouldn't work all of our lives because getting it free is better, especially at someone's expense. In fact, stealing is OK because you can go to church and be forgiven so that you are now free to do it again. In fact, if you get caught it is everyone else who is at fault. Poor poor you. Just because you are lazy you shouldn't be without, should you?? Same principle applies for carrying a gun and robbing people. You just had enough money to buy the gun and bullets, and you deserve more, so taking it by force is ok 'cause you want it and you are too lazy to work for it.

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:08 am
by homie
LOL lets go to Church Mel, I like you... before we get banned. So much stuff happening in the world right now all forums are struggling to toe the line. Lets just watch the news, yell at the TV and RIDE SCOOTERS!!!!

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:24 am
by iceman
In the UK if someone breaks into your house, smashes things up and hurts someone, if you hurt them, you get done too. Human rights BS to the extreme. Same with thieves, you hurt them they sue you.

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:55 am
by Ishkabibble
All this "human rights to the extreme BS", "large successful businesses", and the "criminal is the victim" is nothing more than hyperbole and partisan talking points designed to stir up the masses.

I honestly don't think any of that belongs in either this thread, or this forum. It's neither factually correct, nor topical.

Excuse me for pointing it out, but all those statements are decidedly politically-oriented.

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:36 pm
by flyingzonker
Ishkabibble wrote:All this "human rights to the extreme BS", "large successful businesses", and the "criminal is the victim" is nothing more than hyperbole and partisan talking points designed to stir up the masses.

I honestly don't think any of that belongs in either this thread, or this forum. It's neither factually correct, nor topical.

Excuse me for pointing it out, but all those statements are decidedly politically-oriented.
Couldn't agree more. Just more campaign rhetoric.

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:26 pm
by iceman
Campaign? Your both from the US, I stated UK law - just fact not trying to sway votes in your country. Over here you can get done if someone breaks into your property and injures themselves!, so don't go out of your way to harm someone stealing from you, in this case your bike, just make it very hard for them to bother in the 1st place with good thick chains and locks - not the 10-12mm kind which can easily be bolt cropped.

Re: Thieving Scum

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:28 pm
by gn2
iceman wrote:In the UK if someone breaks into your house, smashes things up and hurts someone, if you hurt them, you get done too.
Wrong.
You are allowed to use reasonable force.
More info here: https://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/pro ... lders.html