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Saving up for that BBK

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:08 pm
by Branyers
So I am going to take the plunge. I have already every drivetrain mod known to man. But I want that little bit of extra punch and a better cruising top speed for long journeys. Instead of occasionally touching 75-80mph I want to more often be able to hit those speeds in the event that I need to. So instead of buying a Forza, which I would love to do, but finances do not permit, I am going the bbk route.

So can I get this done in a weekend, and what are some of the possible snags? I already have the Takegawa FICon2, so I know what it is like having to tear the bike down almost to the frame. There was a tutorial on this site. Can someone point me to that thread? It was very nicely done.

Re: Saving up for that BBK

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:10 pm
by dasshreddar
First off I would say keep saving for a Forza... My engine swap/err :? frame swap hauls ass, no pcx bbk would even come close. 8)

What model pcx do you have? It seems only the 2011 pcx 125 has been successful with the bbk.(pcxdemon , maddiedog).
But, if you go bbk keep us posted... even though I'm not going back to a 150+ I still would like to see someone here have a successful
bbk on a pcx 150 :)

Re: Saving up for that BBK

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:30 pm
by Valiant
Indeed, what model is this?

Speaking from personal experience, the 2015 model has changes to both the throttle body and wiring that could complicate a BBK installation.

Unless you absolutely cannot operate a clutch, I would suggest saving up for an actual motorcycle. I was going for performance mods because I didn't want to sell the PCX and just buy a larger bike. Well, with all the money I sank into this in terms of parts, labor, and time wasted, I could have afforded a larger bike without even selling the PCX.

Re: Saving up for that BBK

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:21 pm
by Branyers
It's a 2013, KF12. Webike has the kit for this model, not sure why no one else has done it before me.

Re: Saving up for that BBK

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:45 pm
by vamootsman
Just looked at the kits available from Webike, and I'm intrigued, but not overwhelmed. I had it in my head that getting the PCX up between 18 and 20hp would make it the Cat's Pajamas, but the chart shows no more the 16hp, and that may be speculative. Unless I'm mis-interpreting the chart.

Re: Saving up for that BBK

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:18 am
by Reaper
takegawa = 16hp at the wheel, proven and reliable. But, mpg rate isn't good, o2 sensor will be disconnected, so no of the closed loop effectiveness here.

Re: Saving up for that BBK

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:37 am
by Pcxdemon
Did you dyno yours reaper? What else do you run, 31mm throttle body, yuminashi cam?

Re: Saving up for that BBK

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:40 am
by Pcxdemon
vamootsman wrote:Just looked at the kits available from Webike, and I'm intrigued, but not overwhelmed. I had it in my head that getting the PCX up between 18 and 20hp would make it the Cat's Pajamas, but the chart shows no more the 16hp, and that may be speculative. Unless I'm mis-interpreting the chart.
A guy in japan that races Pcx has 170cc chameleon bbk with 31mm throttle and takegawa cam with 150 head puts out 18.7hp at the wheel..yuminashi cam would put it close to 20hp at the wheel..
Has dyno sheet runs on his blog..

Re: Saving up for that BBK

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:00 pm
by vamootsman
Pcxdemon wrote:
vamootsman wrote:Just looked at the kits available from Webike, and I'm intrigued, but not overwhelmed. I had it in my head that getting the PCX up between 18 and 20hp would make it the Cat's Pajamas, but the chart shows no more the 16hp, and that may be speculative. Unless I'm mis-interpreting the chart.
A guy in japan that races Pcx has 170cc chameleon bbk with 31mm throttle and takegawa cam with 150 head puts out 18.7hp at the wheel..yuminashi cam would put it close to 20hp at the wheel..
Has dyno sheet runs on his blog..
Now that would be fun to play with!