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Hey all

So my tyres are nearing the legal limit and I am planning to order a new set this weekend. From the forums its almost a given that the Michelin City Grips are possibly the best option. I do ride all year around in the Great British weather (i.e. rain for 11 months!). Just wondered if there are any other options or should I just stick to the City Grips...

Second question would be about the drive belt... I am on about 14,150 miles. I know the service interval is 15k miles for replacement. However, the guy I bought the bike from told me the belt snapped on him at 2.5k miles so he had it replaced. He reckoned it was because he was on the motorway at a constant 60 or more for about an hour and a half each day... Even Honda couldnt say why it happenned.

Anyhoos, the belt has around 11,500 miles on it. I am wondering if I should just get the belt replaced as well now or wait till I am at 15k miles on the belt.. My monthly run is just over 1100 miles so will be at the 15k will be in roughly 3 months from now...

So basically... after that long rant.. the question is... do the belts perish earlier than the service intervals or am I ok for the next 3k or so miles...

Apologies for War and Peace there..

As always all help much appreciated

binje wrote:Hey all

So my tyres are nearing the legal limit and I am planning to order a new set this weekend. From the forums its almost a given that the Michelin City Grips are possibly the best option. I do ride all year around in the Great British weather (i.e. rain for 11 months!). Just wondered if there are any other options or should I just stick to the City Grips...

Second question would be about the drive belt... I am on about 14,150 miles. I know the service interval is 15k miles for replacement. However, the guy I bought the bike from told me the belt snapped on him at 2.5k miles so he had it replaced. He reckoned it was because he was on the motorway at a constant 60 or more for about an hour and a half each day... Even Honda couldnt say why it happenned.

Anyhoos, the belt has around 11,500 miles on it. I am wondering if I should just get the belt replaced as well now or wait till I am at 15k miles on the belt.. My monthly run is just over 1100 miles so will be at the 15k will be in roughly 3 months from now...

So basically... after that long rant.. the question is... do the belts perish earlier than the service intervals or am I ok for the next 3k or so miles...

Apologies for War and Peace there..

As always all help much appreciated

I have tried Stock irc's, Dunlop scootsmart and now have city grips. City grips are far superior to stock and much better than the dunlops in my opinion.

I have used only the stock belt and like to change this around every 7k miles to prevent wearing the variator and to maintain vmax. The more your belt wears the more top end you will lose as this will reduce VMAX

The belt will not perish at the rate you are using it.
I would leave it till 15,000

buddy1976 wrote: I have tried Stock irc's, Dunlop scootsmart and now have city grips. City grips are far superior to stock and much better than the dunlops in my opinion.

I have used only the stock belt and like to change this around every 7k miles to prevent wearing the variator and to maintain vmax. The more your belt wears the more top end you will lose as this will reduce VMAX

See now I am gonna sound completely ignorant... what is VMAX?
I take it you change the belt more often as you have an aftermarket variator then?

gn2 wrote:The belt will not perish at the rate you are using it.
I would leave it till 15,000

Thanks for the advice... much appreciated... is changing the belt fairly straightforward or leave it to the professionals?

With the right tools its a doddle if you have any spannering skills.
You'll need a tool for holding the variator and a strap wrench to hold the clutch.

gn2 wrote:With the right tools its a doddle if you have any spannering skills.
You'll need a tool for holding the variator and a strap wrench to hold the clutch.

Why do you need the strap wrench too?

You need a strap wench to hold the clutch drum while you undo the nut to get the rear pulley off.
The belt won't come out with the rear pulley in place.

gn2 wrote:You need a strap wench to hold the clutch drum while you undo the nut to get the rear pulley off.
The belt won't come out with the rear pulley in place.

I haven't changed a belt on a Forza as you have but on everyone I have changed I've just pulled the pulleys apart manually

This thread is about the PCX.

you you wrote:

gn2 wrote:You need a strap wench to hold the clutch drum while you undo the nut to get the rear pulley off.
The belt won't come out with the rear pulley in place.

I haven't changed a belt on a Forza as you have but on everyone I have changed I've just pulled the pulleys apart manually

Fair enough. Then you definitely don't need a strap wrench

I'd recomend an aftermarket belt just because USUALLY the dealers need to order the belt so you will wait anyway. The aftermarket REINFORCED belts are the way to go. They wear longer at higher speeds. The maximum wear if I remember correctly is 21.5mm. Don't worry so much about mileage as the wear. That is the equivelant of saying a 70k mile tire is still good if it is bald at 40k or 50k because of driving style.

I've seen comments from people saying stick with the Honda belt and steer clear of the aftermarket Kevlar ones - I've even seen such comments watching videos on youtube for many scooters and people say the Kevlar ones and after-market ones are not as good as the genuine Honda one. Not saying that is the true though.

you you wrote:

you you wrote:

gn2 wrote:You need a strap wench to hold the clutch drum while you undo the nut to get the rear pulley off.
The belt won't come out with the rear pulley in place.

I haven't changed a belt on a Forza as you have but on everyone I have changed I've just pulled the pulleys apart manually

Fair enough. Then you definitely don't need a strap wrench

Right... think I may need to call my buddy who has loads more experience working on bikes. I can do the basics of servicing etc but dont think I wanna tackle this on my own. Plus I always end up helping him on his latest project on his cars or bike so works for me. Thanks again for the advice all

Mgalutia88 wrote:I'd recomend an aftermarket belt just because USUALLY the dealers need to order the belt so you will wait anyway. The aftermarket REINFORCED belts are the way to go. They wear longer at higher speeds. The maximum wear if I remember correctly is 21.5mm. Don't worry so much about mileage as the wear. That is the equivelant of saying a 70k mile tire is still good if it is bald at 40k or 50k because of driving style.

Well I do about an hour of 50-55 mph riding on A roads and then about 30-40 for half an hour in London. Obviously the higher speed runs are what make me worry about belt wear (should have mentioned this in the beginning). So my worry is less about the mileage but more about the speeds for those miles...

iceman wrote:I've seen comments from people saying stick with the Honda belt and steer clear of the aftermarket Kevlar ones - I've even seen such comments watching videos on youtube for many scooters and people say the Kevlar ones and after-market ones are not as good as the genuine Honda one. Not saying that is the true though.

Might have to look into this a bit more seeing as I have a little bit more time before the belt change comes around... Honda bits are quite good anyway. Plus I am happy to replace wearing parts sooner rather than later as the my PCXy is my workhorse so better to look after it

All I can say is with my mods I run 70 mph at 8500 rpm and 75 mph at 9000 rpm. I want my Kevlar belt. My stock belt only lasted 1100 miles before it was at the wear limit with riding 70-75 mph.

I know an aftermarket windshield certainly helps, it stops your body acting as an airbrake.

buddy1976 wrote:I know an aftermarket windshield certainly helps, it stops your body acting as an airbrake.

Whoops wrong thread!