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God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:55 pm
by Cascanciu
... And quite frankly, I think I'm not ordering any other windscreen. After summer, when I got the Givi back on the PCX (I had removed it for summertime) the wind buffeting became a pain. A real one. One day I got it off just to try. Day after it was for sale and I sold it yesterday. The PCX sees 90% of her use at the city and the windscreen is not that much necessary with my Dainese winter jacket.

I don't feel like making more experimentation. If I knew for sure that this or that particular windscreen makes no wind buffeting I'd probably get it, but it looks like all but the big Givi (and I won't be fitting that one, no way :lol: , don't want my PCX to look like a sailboat) make it, so time to man up and ride with no windscreen :lol: :lol:

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:55 am
by Mgalutia88
Glad it works for you. Over half of my riding is done at 70+ mph so I thnk I'll keep mine. :) at speeds below 45 mph there really isn't much need for a screen.

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:25 pm
by hatari
God works in mysterious ways....

if wind buffing a problem, you thought of getting a car ?

PCX - standard screen for me....

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:35 am
by Cracksta
I had the short Givi screen, it does fell better however I too had the wind buffeting effect.

I sold it a week later. Works for some I guess but any bigger screen would look too much for the little PCX.

I ride mainly in the city 3-40mph and 1 short burst to 50mph on a short road going home lol

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:49 am
by Mgalutia88
I too get the buffeting, however, I ride 70+ mph 25-35 miles at times so I would much rather have a little buffeting as compared to my biondi screen that costs me speed and economy. The truth of the matter is neither of the givi screens nor my biondi screen are rated for anything over 60mph. They actually state DO NOT exceed 60; I'm guessing for warranty reasons lol.

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:12 am
by Cascanciu
hatari wrote:God works in mysterious ways....

if wind buffing a problem, you thought of getting a car ?

PCX - standard screen
for me....
Sure He works in mysterious ways. I'm still wondering what part of my post is difficult to understand, or, more likely, if it has to do with your reading comprehension. You can either try a short Givi and then give a useful opinion, or avoid making pointless comments.

This screen works for anyone who is not higher than 170 cm. If you're any taller, you'll get wind buffeting.

By the way, I currently own two cars. No need nor room for more in my garage.

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:12 pm
by GeezyRider
I'm on the fence about the short Givi. Like Cascanciu, I don't care for the wind buffeting about my head. However, it does keep my helmet face shield clear of bugs and debris.

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:02 pm
by Mel46
We had the short Givi windscreen on and my wife, who is only 5 feet tall, asked me to modify it. I added a piece to it which helped keep the wind off of her face but didn't block wind from her hands. She rode throughout the summer with it but by fall we had decided on the tall one. We got the tall one recently and installed it but it is too cold out to ride now. Guess we will have to wait until Spring to try it. As for the original Honda windscreen, that is a joke. Why put it on at all? Honda should have shipped it without one and offered to install whatever the buyer wanted, giving that person a choice.

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:37 pm
by Cascanciu
Then it's actually worse than I thought it was, Mel. I'm 5 ft 9" (in your units) and thought someone shorter than me would find it useful. I could see some benefit on these windscreen as it does keep the worst of the wind off your chest, but the noise it creates at helmet height is unbearable to me. I use a modular helmet, which is noisy enough. I didn't need more noise.

Something else is crosswind. On the way to work there is an area which is frequently blown by crosswinds. With this windscreen on, the PCX felt shaky and unstable, sometimes to the point of getting a kind of frightening when there was a lorry passing by me on one lane, and another vehicle on the other one next to me to the other hand side. So I decided enough was enough. I, seriously, do not recommend this thing.

Problem is, the original Honda screen is pricey. The dealer says it is wind buffeting free, but I can, seriously, think in better ways to spend 180€. The tall Ermax, TCP, short Ermax... honestly, I won't be buying any unless I can test them before to make sure the same phenomena will take place again, and no one will let you do that, which is stupid. You do try on a pair of shoes before you buy them, don't you? :D .

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:53 pm
by redwind
I wouldn't say that a taller screen is only for those who ride at relatively higher speeds. I ride at about 40mph, and there is certainly a difference with and without. It's all about maximising ease and comfort. As for 'manning up' (silly term that), I associate that with increasing ones intelligence, etc, so that one needn't avail oneself of such terms ;), and not braving the elements for the sake of it. 'Man' needs a redefinition distinct from times reminiscent of Club-bearing grunters.

I'm dumping my short Givi for the taller one - my 322st fiting vid in the 'accessories' section. The wind noise, even at speeds of 20mph is ridiculous though a tilt-down of the helmet reduces it significantly (I'm 1.69m. Use a Shoei Qwest Bloodflow Helmet). And I certainly don't appreciate the cold air blast slamming my neck and shooting up my helmet either - during the long winters in the UK. The buffeting, however, isnt much of a problem at my speed.

Yes, I do think the tall givi makes the scoot look like one of those rock and rollers in Harajuku, Japan, with a really tall comb-back, but i think I should 'man-up' and get practical about it.

It should be with the retailer now in the UK as I ordered it in late november 2013. Will fit it up once I return to the UK from Singapore in a week's time....traffic conditions here is maniacal compared to the UK.

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:45 pm
by dasshreddar
:ugeek: Yes, be a real man and don't use a windscreen... grunt, grunt :lol:

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:09 pm
by Mel46
My wife calls the Ruccus and Big Ruccus ugly and uglier. I can't imagine someone chopping up a PCX, which is a piece of art, and appendix g it to a Ruccus to make a Frankiruccus.

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:13 pm
by you you
Mel46 wrote:My wife calls the Ruccus and Big Ruccus ugly and uglier. I can't imagine someone chopping up a PCX, which is a piece of art, and appendix g it to a Ruccus to make a Frankiruccus.

It's kind of growing on me

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:07 am
by hatari
dasshreddar wrote::ugeek: Yes, be a real man and don't use a windscreen... grunt, grunt :lol:
replacing a pcx with one of those would be like ripping out the gas central heating in your home and replacing it with a coal fire....

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:44 pm
by you you
Has gn2 got multiple log ins?

Re: God rid of the short Givi and...

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:30 pm
by WhiteNoise
I like that photo Dass! ;) Are those mussel shells on the ground? Off the beaten track again! :D