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Probably a dumb question but here goes. Are there any adverse effects if the majority of break in miles are ridden in cold weather? I just bought a PCX 150 a little over a week ago. I love it so much I can't stop riding despite the cold weather. At the rate I'm going I will have ridden the majority of the first 300 miles in freezing temps or slightly above.

Also, great forum. Been browsing the last couple of days and there is a lot of good content on here.

aragon wrote:Probably a dumb question but here goes. Are there any adverse effects if the majority of break in miles are ridden in cold weather? I just bought a PCX 150 a little over a week ago. I love it so much I can't stop riding despite the cold weather. At the rate I'm going I will have ridden the majority of the first 300 miles in freezing temps or slightly above.

Also, great forum. Been browsing the last couple of days and there is a lot of good content on here.

Don't worry, it doesn't matter what time of year you break the bike in

Just don't ride it like you stole it for the first few minutes, same thing as for any cold engine. I put mine on the centre stand and let it run for the time I put my gloves on (the last thing I do before riding off). Helps to get that little bit of oil flowing and up to temperature before I go on my way.

I got my PCX in late fall so all my miles have been in freezing temps with no problems.

Thanks for the feedback!

It shouldn't matter as long as you give the engine ample time to warm up. During break-in especially, you should go for longer rides rather than shorter rides. If you're just going a mile to the grocery, go the long way and turn that into a 10-mile trip to get the engine properly warmed up.

Modern engines are built to much better specifications than older engines. As long as you aren't going full throttle continuously or neglecting the first service, you should be fine.

maddiedog wrote:It shouldn't matter as long as you give the engine ample time to warm up. During break-in especially, you should go for longer rides rather than shorter rides. If you're just going a mile to the grocery, go the long way and turn that into a 10-mile trip to get the engine properly warmed up.

Modern engines are built to much better specifications than older engines. As long as you aren't going full throttle continuously or neglecting the first service, you should be fine.

Thanks. It sounds like I need to do a better job of warming up or taking the long way for good measure. My commute is only 2 miles to work and most of my other trips have been pretty short too.

aragon wrote:Probably a dumb question but here goes. Are there any adverse effects if the majority of break in miles are ridden in cold weather? I just bought a PCX 150 a little over a week ago. I love it so much I can't stop riding despite the cold weather. At the rate I'm going I will have ridden the majority of the first 300 miles in freezing temps or slightly above.

Also, great forum. Been browsing the last couple of days and there is a lot of good content on here.

Welcome to the forums! I bought mine in early Jan and have been riding in freezing temps as well! Two things to consider here. First, when the engine is cold (or very cold) and with it just breaking in, you have a higher than normal amount of blow-by. This is burned and un-burned fuel that slips by the new rings and gets into the motor oil. It is all part of the break-in and why the early oil change is so important. They key is to be gentle on throttle acceleration to reduce the amount of blow-by.

Secondly, warm-up is a tricky balance. The best way for an engine to warm up is under steady load. Idling is actually fairly rough when very cold. A load can help get everything up and running, including the catalytic converter. You want that at temp and burning through the un-burned fuel cleanly and not getting jammed up in the exhaust. So, a very brief bit of idling after first starting in very cold temps is good, but then gentle throttle as it warms up is best. Mine is garage kept, so less of an issue as it doesn't get terribly cold in there, here in TN.

BTW, cold weather is one of the areas that water cooled and fuel injected scooters have a clear advantage over air-cooled and carburated versions. Through the ECU actively monitoring and controlling fuel mixture and the thermostat monitoring engine temps, the motor is able to keep in its peak efficiency. Love the PCX!

Thanks PCX Commuter that's good info. I keep mine in the garage too but man it has been cold lately. This morning I had my coldest ride at 18F. It is the first trip I've taken that was uncomfortable, but only on my hands. Rode in the low 20s and never had an issue. In fact it was invigorating. Will probably rethink riding the next time it gets this cold.

aragon wrote:Thanks PCX Commuter that's good info. I keep mine in the garage too but man it has been cold lately. This morning I had my coldest ride at 18F. It is the first trip I've taken that was uncomfortable, but only on my hands. Rode in the low 20s and never had an issue. In fact it was invigorating. Will probably rethink riding the next time it gets this cold.

I hear you! My temp limit is now 20F. I drove a couple weeks ago at 16F and my gear just couldn't quite keep me warm.