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WhiteNoise wrote:Tis the point. Check mate! Agree.

Err no.
By "very low speeds" I mean walking pace.

I know, I do know been there, done it, still do it. Works!

More about brakes. 2 links for you...... "provided by" Honda Worldwide for PCX and Forza.

PCX having CBS (combined braking system) http://world.honda.com/tech-views/motor ... index.html

Forza having Combined-ABS (combined antilock brake system) http://world.honda.com/tech-views/motor ... index.html

^^ Both systems better than individual (separate) brake systems. With (perhaps) one being better than the other. Heh, gn2?

No perhaps about it.
You would have to be insane to buy a non-ABS Forza.

Why would someone who rides as to not use their brakes, ever need anti lock brakes??? Seems a waste of $.

Humans cannot control brakes as effectively as a computer can.
There will always be those OH SHIT moments, ABS can mean the difference between stayng vertical and crashing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j32751P1tQ

scisor34 wrote:Why would someone who rides as to not use their brakes, ever need anti lock brakes??? Seems a waste of $.

LOL ... I love it!

Another demonstration of ABS brakes. V. Impressive.
Honda should add ABS brakes in a future 200-250cc PCX. Nice! Oh, and longer service intervals (hear that gn2?) and....wider tyres (Michelin

In the year 2525 (?)

WhiteNoise wrote:Another demonstration of ABS brakes. V. Impressive.
Honda should add ABS brakes in a future 200-250cc PCX. Nice! Oh, and longer service intervals (hear that gn2?) and....wider tyres (Michelin

In the year 2525 (?)

I'd heard that ABS is going to be compulsory on all EU vehicles by 2016. Not sure how true it is

I think under 125 were supposed to be exempt, but as there are 125s being fitted with it already maybe not.

Friggin' YouTube's are Not poppin'!! Arg! Never had this problem. No show! Bleh!
I will seek out that video link, but in the meantime I have this link to share explaining ABS

http://www.motorcyclemonthly.co.uk/news ... ping-power

I Shouldn't have said "Never had," because it just started happening lately. I'm on my iPad now & I just see a white screen where the youtube should be. So I get on my samsung galaxy S4, to look there. Zip. Now I see a little blue box with a question mark inside of it. My Next test will be on my laptop. Not now though.
Does this mean no more attaching YouTube videos to the forum? Dave? Anybody?

Oh, and that link I just said I would find and post...sorry can't find it now.

So tell me peeps, How's your Sunday going? I'm about to take a ride on my Non ABS 3speed bicycle Cheerio

If you're an experienced rider with aggressive riding experience(not necessarily talking about the PCX or Forza) you will absolutely hate the lever feel of anti-lock brakes. To the experienced rider they feel "squishy" with no feedback to what's going on. As for the "Oh Shit" moments, often times the safest option is to lay ur bike down in a controlled slide. Good luck doing that with anti-lock brakes.

Not to change the subject, and please don't because of my interruption

but I've been meaning to add this MSF BRC PDF
http://msf-usa.org/downloads/BRCHandbook.pdf
Okay done now

So, ABS sounds like a sticky subject? Folks like and disliking them 50/50? I have to decide on this, and I'm not familiar With ABS on two wheels. New PCX will Not have them, 200 Burgman will, Sprint will and others out there to be seen will. ABS and me? Hmmm...

scisor34 wrote:If you're an experienced rider with aggressive riding experience(not necessarily talking about the PCX or Forza) you will absolutely hate the lever feel of anti-lock brakes. To the experienced rider they feel "squishy" with no feedback to what's going on.

Bullshit.

gn2 wrote:

scisor34 wrote:If you're an experienced rider with aggressive riding experience(not necessarily talking about the PCX or Forza) you will absolutely hate the lever feel of anti-lock brakes. To the experienced rider they feel "squishy" with no feedback to what's going on.

Bullshit.

Lol......

scisor34 wrote:As for the "Oh Shit" moments, often times the safest option is to lay ur bike down in a controlled slide. Good luck doing that with anti-lock brakes.

The downside to ABS is you're not going have much biker cred from any near misses where you simply came to a controlled stop and then rode away.

Given a choice between a "controlled" slide and a "controlled" stop, most sensible people would opt to just stop.

AustinPCX wrote:

scisor34 wrote:As for the "Oh Shit" moments, often times the safest option is to lay ur bike down in a controlled slide. Good luck doing that with anti-lock brakes.

The downside to ABS is you're not going have much biker cred from any near misses where you simply came to a controlled stop and then rode away.

Given a choice between a "controlled" slide and a "controlled" stop, most sensible people would opt to just stop.

The "oh shit" moments I was referring to are life and death decisions, not "biker cred" moments (if there is such a thing). Absolutely you always want to just stop and ride away. Being able to control your bike enough to execute a controlled laydown in an emergency situation (I haven't been there and hope I never am) is often times the difference between life and death.

scisor34 wrote:often times the safest option is to lay ur bike down in a controlled slide.

I'm sorry, but I disagree. Keeping a bike upright and scrubbing as much speed off as possible is always the best option. And to scrub speed/slow down - one needs one's tyres in contact with the road.

"Controlled laydown"...?
Sounds like the sort of thing a bullshitter might say after they have a crash.