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E. Foster Salsbury wrote:It would be nice if the seat to floorboard distance was greater. My 2015 measures about 17 inches. Is the new model higher?

It's now 19 inches.

Is the fuel guage accurate now?

Please post more photos for our eyes.

In Malaysia, many still waiting for Forza. We heard the local dealer is still clearing old stocks of NSS300.

XMax has been difficult to buy, need to order one and no ready stocks.

davenowherejones wrote:Is the fuel guage accurate now?

Not absolutely sure although this morning the "range" indicator told me that I only had 6 miles to go (one bar showing on the gauge) and when I re-fuelled it took 8.12L so there were approximately 3.4L still in the tank. The manual states that one bar means that you have 2.14L left.

I suspect that the 6 mile figure was based on my quick run to the garage as I recall that it was showing higher than this before I put the bike away last time. Alternatively, I didn't quite fill the tank to the brim this morning.

Conclusion - happy to rely on the Range indicator knowing that I probably have a good 50 miles after it hits zero.

davenowherejones wrote:Is the fuel guage accurate now?

Don't be ridiculous!

Oldie wrote:

davenowherejones wrote:Is the fuel guage accurate now?

Not absolutely sure although this morning the "range" indicator told me that I only had 6 miles to go (one bar showing on the gauge) and when I re-fuelled it took 8.12L so there were approximately 3.4L still in the tank. The manual states that one bar means that you have 2.14L left.

I suspect that the 6 mile figure was based on my quick run to the garage as I recall that it was showing higher than this before I put the bike away last time. Alternatively, I didn't quite fill the tank to the brim this morning.

Conclusion - happy to rely on the Range indicator knowing that I probably have a good 50 miles after it hits zero.

The range to go indicator on my SV can take a while to sort itself out if you switch the bike on while its on the sidestand due to slope knocking the fuel level reading off.
Maybe this is what happened on your Forza?

I filled it up on the centrestand just to make sure that I got a full tank. The dealer had filled it up for me before I rode the bike home but you never know how much they put in.

Interestingly, I filled up at 165 miles and it took 8.12L, so fuel consumption for the first tank was 92mpg (that's UK mpg, or about 77mpg US).

That makes me suspect that I didn't actually fill the tank properly as the bike computer told me that I had averaged only around 79mpg for the journey home.

I'll do better the next time !

Filling up on the center stand is indeed preferable for a more accurate tank filling.

Old Grinner wrote:Filling up on the center stand is indeed preferable for a more accurate tank filling.

You are right but on the old Forza it made very little difference.

On a big flat tank it would but the Forza tank is small.

Oldie wrote:...as the bike computer told me that I had averaged only around 79mpg for the journey home...

Maybe the bike computer is reading US MPG?

WhiteJLY wrote:Please post more photos for our eyes.

Sorry, but I haven't had an opportunity to take proper photos but here's one showing both my Forza and PCX.

Oldie wrote:

WhiteJLY wrote:Please post more photos for our eyes.

Sorry, but I haven't had an opportunity to take proper photos but here's one showing both my Forza and PCX.

Those are nice scooters!

Cruising at legal highway speed, how's the consumption of the Forza?

How do you like the headlights for night riding? Is the low beam adequate. . .any problems with that? Is the high beam awesome? LED's right?

Highway fuel consumption is around 80mpg (UK). I haven't had an opportunity to test the lights yet but I did hear that LEDs are pretty good.

One issue that I've found is the mirrors. I just can't seem to get an ideal adjustment which shows the traffic immediately behind me without also seeing half my body. If I move the mirrors out to see the traffic in the lanes to either side of me then I can't see anything directly following me. Maybe I just haven't tried hard enough but I've had bikes with a much better rearwards field of vision.

In terms of the seat, it's definitely softening up and is very comfortable now. Perhaps a little too high for my 5'8" as I'm on tiptoes at a stop, but just adapting to that. It does mean, however, that there's plenty of legroom whilst riding.

One of the best points is the screen - I really love the ability to do minor adjustments at the flick of a switch. The height is also fine for me but taller riders will probably not benefit just as much.

Overall, I think that this is the bike that I've been waiting for. Great weather protection, nice handling and quick enough for what I need. The light weight is a bonus and I find the bike so easy to live with and I'm sure that it will make a great touring motorcycle.

And, before I forget, I'm now a dedicated fan of keyless bikes - really convenient in all sorts of circumstances.

Not sure if they will ever again make a 300 with as low as seat height as the 1st Forza. The trend is not, I am borderline riding the newer ones my inseam is 30 in. Its the saddle width that matters a lot, I have ridden GSXRs, CBR600 and ZX6r just fine.

The R6 is a problem, at 33 inch seat it be careful!!

I really don't see the point of keyless on a scoot. The failsafe on my SH300 was a plastic key with a coded magnet in. If you lost the keyless fob then you pulled a panel and used the plastic key to trip the seat lock and get in that way. But the manual said to take the plastic key out with you. If you're going to have to carry a key all the time then you don't need a fob.

Mister Paul wrote:I really don't see the point of keyless on a scoot. The failsafe on my SH300 was a plastic key with a coded magnet in. If you lost the keyless fob then you pulled a panel and used the plastic key to trip the seat lock and get in that way. But the manual said to take the plastic key out with you. If you're going to have to carry a key all the time then you don't need a fob.

That is great for you. Wasn't the 20th century fantastic

The rest of the world may have moved on

Oldie wrote:Highway fuel consumption is around 80mpg (UK). I haven't had an opportunity to test the lights yet but I did hear that LEDs are pretty good.

One issue that I've found is the mirrors. I just can't seem to get an ideal adjustment which shows the traffic immediately behind me without also seeing half my body. If I move the mirrors out to see the traffic in the lanes to either side of me then I can't see anything directly following me. Maybe I just haven't tried hard enough but I've had bikes with a much better rearwards field of vision.

In terms of the seat, it's definitely softening up and is very comfortable now. Perhaps a little too high for my 5'8" as I'm on tiptoes at a stop, but just adapting to that. It does mean, however, that there's plenty of legroom whilst riding.

One of the best points is the screen - I really love the ability to do minor adjustments at the flick of a switch. The height is also fine for me but taller riders will probably not benefit just as much.

Overall, I think that this is the bike that I've been waiting for. Great weather protection, nice handling and quick enough for what I need. The light weight is a bonus and I find the bike so easy to live with and I'm sure that it will make a great touring motorcycle.

And, before I forget, I'm now a dedicated fan of keyless bikes - really convenient in all sorts of circumstances.

Same here.. after feeling the constraint PCX on motorway, I have been reading for what could be a second cruising bike and keyless bike has been a priority. Someone did advise me, that once you lived with it... You will want it again.

Happy biking.

I really like the keyless function on my XMAX. When my keys dont come out of my pocket they just don't get lost as easily, they don't scratch anything up, the system works perfectly. There is also a mechanical key , that allows you to input a key code to emergency start it if the key is dead or lost.

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Mister Paul wrote:I really don't see the point of keyless on a scoot. The failsafe on my SH300 was a plastic key with a coded magnet in. If you lost the keyless fob then you pulled a panel and used the plastic key to trip the seat lock and get in that way. But the manual said to take the plastic key out with you. If you're going to have to carry a key all the time then you don't need a fob.

That is great for you. Wasn't the 20th century fantastic

The rest of the world may have moved on

If the 21st century means having to carry a key (like you normally would anyway) all of the time in order to be able to address the downsides of a fob, whereas previously you only needed a key, then pass me my flat cap.