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Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:22 pm
by vamootsman
you you wrote:
vamootsman wrote:The NCY variator and face plate will get you over 70mph on the downhill, no lying or stretching the truth. I just averaged 73mph for over 60 miles in rolling hills on I80 with a strong tailwind. Into the wind is another story. Only 60 mph. Still way better than stock. I have an exhaust and pod filter installed also.
averaged 73mph over 60 miles!!! Amazing. I can't average much over 70 mph when I run at pretty steady 90mph, 120 plus on a clear stretch over a 95 mile trip home. Not on a PCX obviously.

I'm impressed.

Where do I get this variator from?

Scooterman's posts have the links somewhere. That's how I got mine. The tailwind was at least 15mph steady and gusting to 25. That and some good drafting and I rarely dropped below 70 on the uphills. Hit the rev limiter at 76mph. It goes to 79 on the stand. I found that after the belt heats up, I lose some top end. Start to notice at 5-7 miles of riding. It's fun playing on the Interstate and actually passing cars if you can maintain that speed and have the nerve (or are just nuts).

Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:31 am
by jkautz
Thanks for the info on this guys. I'm gonna wait until after 2k miles & then get the NCY variator. Is this something that can be installed by the dealer? Or is it a DIY. Anyone have a link to purchasing what I need?

Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:00 am
by homie
Corsport 303-761-3090 for the vario parts shown here and amazon for your choice of rollers, 13g being the one I like on the 2015... and yes you can do this yourself.


Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:48 am
by homie
Less than 140.00 usd to get your wings. I can't speak to which rollers for you because I'm pushing larger tires but rollers are cheap, get a set of both 12 and 13g and have fun. Corsport lists the pulley and face for 2013 125cc PCX, disregard this as they have so much stuff they might not have updated their description of 2015 PCX150cc application.... the part numbers shown in vid are the ones for your 2015 scoot. You will not have to remove any panels to upgrade the vario but learning to remove the left side panel is good to know because you can route wiring for stuff like a tachometer in the future :)

Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:22 pm
by jkautz
Right on. I'll look into purchasing that and hopefully I don't screw up installing myself. Thanks again

Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:40 pm
by homie
jkautz wrote:Right on. I'll look into purchasing that and hopefully I don't screw up installing myself. Thanks again
and when you go after your rollers weights on amazon get these for future fairing removal and reinstallation on 2015 PCX. They are unique to the newest generation scooter.

http://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Screw-Riv ... Y6V0368DE3

Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 11:21 am
by jkautz
I've come to realize that this is not a limiter based off 9600rpm. I go down a steep grade and hit the limiter at 64mph on the speedometer and im only at half throttle. So my PCX is definitely limited by speed and not rpm. So I'm not sure if this is different for the 2013 maybe, but mine guaranteed is limited on speed at 64mph

Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 11:36 am
by sendler2112
jkautz wrote:I've come to realize that this is not a limiter based off 9600rpm. I go down a steep grade and hit the limiter at 64mph on the speedometer and im only at half throttle. So my PCX is definitely limited by speed and not rpm. So I'm not sure if this is different for the 2013 maybe, but mine guaranteed is limited on speed at 64mph
It IS the rev limiter. On the flat or down a hill the top speed versus rpm is the same. Once you hit 9,600 rpm you are done. If you change to longer gearing at the variator, or the final drive, you will get a higher top speed at the limiter.

Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:30 pm
by jkautz
How is that possible? I'm definitely not redlining the RPM when I'm going down hill. I'm barely pulling the throttle and it stops every single time at 64mph. It never goes above that no matter how steep the decline. I find it hard to believe im redlining 9600rpm with half throttle rolling downhill.

Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:38 pm
by sendler2112
This situation is quite well known. It has nothing to do with the speed pick up. It has everything to do with the rpm signal. Some guys that have changed the variator can hit 75 mph down hill because that becomes the new speed vs. rpm for 9,600 rpm.

Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:46 pm
by jkautz
So the scooter will continue revving high while the speed is picking up downhill. Very confusing. I guess this is what happens when there's no clutch

Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:44 pm
by gn2
jkautz wrote:I find it hard to believe im redlining 9600rpm with half throttle rolling downhill.
If you had a rev counter you wouldn't.
Did you do any physics at school?

Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:56 pm
by jkautz
GN2 can kiss my ass. ;)

Re: Taking off the speed limiter!?

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:07 pm
by homie
:lol: :lol: :lol: Lighten up gentlemen, some have been thinking about stuff like this long time and old threads have hashed this out before. We don't need to take a course in physics just dig into archives and spare ourselves the humiliation. Besides I'm the resident fool and all will give me their samich