Tinted Windows in Motor Vehicles Should Be Outlawed!!!!!

[PCX150Rider]

One of my biggest gripes, among many, about dealing with other competitors for space on the nation's roads today is tinted windows.

I want to be able to see if the driver is texting. . .or even looking in my direction.

Another thing is the driver may be totally involved in the party going on with the other passengers and just not adequately paying attention.

How many times have you been going along at 45 MPH and you see some driver suddenly appear like a charging Tiger out of jungle cover from a side street and you can't tell if they see you and are going to stop.

It's true that "driverless" vehicles are and will continue to be a growing part of the mix on the roadways and how all that turns out will be hopefully not another bad dream.

I'm done. . ..

[Mel46]

Some states have a law against windows in cars being tinted too dark. I have seen police pull them over and ticket them here in Georgia. Some come from Florida. If they have an out of state tag and they can show that they are not living here or moving here, they are given a warning. If they have moved here recently they are given a ticket that they can take to court. If they get the tinting removed the ticket will be suspended after they show proof.

[easyrider]

I have seen many a cop car with deep dark tint as well. Cops like it because they are in it for 8hrs a day and they can remain somewhat clandestine with their intentions. I don't like it either and think that's what sunglasses are for, however it is what it is so our only defense is to be clearly visible and make our presence clearly known through lighting and other means. As long as drivers are permitted to having cell phones glued to their ears we will always be at risk.

[Jge64]

I will always tint every car I own, within the law allows....it saves the interior, easier on the air-conditioning, and you can see in at any point of time @ 35%.

[PCX150Rider]

I know people in the hot climates like them and I know the Police use them as well but I feel that is what is good for the goose is good for the gander and there should be no tinted windows on any vehicle period. But that's just me.

Back in the '50s from what I remember the auto manufacturers use to tint just the upper part of the windshields or actually put some kind of a visor along the top of the windshield outline if that's what you wanted. Kind of like those "non-hats" the golfers wear. It helped. . .but it didn't interfere with one's ability to see if the driver was looking at you or attentive to the situation. That I could live with.

But to have tinted windows of any kind to me is ignorant and self serving and not being a "team player" on the road when it comes to safety. In NY they are trying to improve the situation by giving a go or no-go at state vehicle inspection facilities now. I think it's definitely a step in the right direction.

http://www.mytwintiers.com/news/local-n ... /641223014

It's one of those issues like using cell phones when you drive. . .it's controversial and both sides have their strong opinions about it. The compromise on the tinted windows is about how much tint you can have and still be able to see Fred Flintstone behind the wheel.

[homie]

You can tint away here in Illinois everything except windshield, driver and front passenger window. You do that and you're busted. The police do not enjoy approaching a tinted front end, ticket for sure, never do it in illinois. They hit you with such a bright light from behind when you have tint on the back end that you wish you didn't.

[Gil]

You can tint away here in Illinois everything except windshield, driver and front passenger window. You do that and you're busted. The police do not enjoy approaching a tinted front end, ticket for sure, never do it in illinois. They hit you with such a bright light from behind when you have tint on the back end that you wish you didn't.

The same here in California.

gil

[you you]

I'm not a great fan of tinted windows. They look awful.

However I've got a light tint on my rear car window as it is at an very acute angle and it keeps the dog cool.

Doesn't really affect vision.

[PCX150Rider]

I'm not a great fan of tinted windows. They look awful.

However I've got a light tint on my rear car window as it is at an very acute angle and it keeps the dog cool.

Doesn't really affect vision.

The light tint I can understand. . .and some vehicle windows do create a "green house" effect on back seat passengers.

It's the real dark tint windows that I'm concerned about. They make it so you just can't see what the heck is going on with the driver. Especially if the sun is reflecting on them at a certain angle.

When I started this topic yesterday I just got back from a ride and had to deal with some "stupid" people driving "stupid" and was a little bit perturbed. Had a Mercedes driver coming at me way over the yellow line. . .obviously distracted. Had another driver in a van from out of state ahead of me partially in my lane coming to an intersection where you either go straight or right. . .he couldn't make up his mind and I needed to get by to go right so I nailed the horn. And now there's a burgeoning trend in my area to get golf carts to drive to the beach. It's not a "gated" community and some of these idiots drive them on the sidewalks. . .I'll stop there.

[Mel46]

I definitely understand your irritation. There is a very large "golfing community" right next to our subdivision. In reality it is a subdivision built around a golf course. The prices of those houses is $100,000 more for the same design as we have in our subdivision, except of course, they have their swim-tennis-golf community that costs a fortune to join. Well, those drivers don't seem to care that it is not a gated community, and they drive their golf carts on public roads without a concern in the world. Luckily, they haven't been foolish enough to try to take them on the heavily travelled main streets on either side of their community. They would be run over in no time.

In an area where everyone is in a hurry and no one has concern for anyone else, the police have to be very careful about how and who they ticket. Everyone is either an attorney or married to one. ...and that might explain why OUR auto insurance just jumped this Year!

(We called our agent to inquire as to why ours went up since we have not had tickets or accidents and their answer was that it was only in our specific area that the premiums have jumped, due to bad drivers and high costs for accidents. ...there are quite a few cars in our area that range from $250,000 up, and aggressive drivers are the norm.)

[PCX150Rider]

I definitely understand your irritation. There is a very large "golfing community" right next to our subdivision. In reality it is a subdivision built around a golf course. The prices of those houses is $100,000 more for the same design as we have in our subdivision, except of course, they have their swim-tennis-golf community that costs a fortune to join. Well, those drivers don't seem to care that it is not a gated community, and they drive their golf carts on public roads without a concern in the world. Luckily, they haven't been foolish enough to try to take them on the heavily travelled main streets on either side of their community. They would be run over in no time.

I've been to the "Reynolds Plantation" in your state, GA, back in the '90s when it was a growing golf community of expensive houses on Lake Oconee. It really amazed me how much construction was going on and places that we would pass on one visit that were woods would become construction sites by the time we visited again. Felt sorry for the "Boiled Peanuts" vendors that were trying to scratch a living and were getting pushed aside.

Today I had another vehicle, an older guy in a red pickup truck this time, way way way over the yellow line, long time, and as I waved for him to get back over on his side (without flipping him off as much as I would have liked to) he absolutely did not respond. Of course I had already moved over towards my shoulder of the road and the guy behind him was probably in disbelief. They were approaching a traffic light so I had to assume he would have straightened it out by then. I was only on the PCX maybe 5 minutes and the crap had started already.

So the next time you come across these examples of humanity performing flawlessly through life just remember that there is an endless supply and you will never have to fear a shortage of them.

[easyrider]

Golf carts are more and more increasing in subdivisions. I am near The Villages (Florida)which happens to be ground zero for golf cars usage. They started the revolution and now they are appearing everywhere these days.They buzz about and have little concern for traffic laws. Fortunately they are not permitted on the major arterials but they are an ever increasing concept. Whether we like it or not electric will be our future in transporation so I guess we will have to deal with the buzzing about. Tinting is definitely a concern , but these damn cell phones are outrageous culprits and until they are dismissed from cars they will forever be a danger. Stay visible folks !!

[Mel46]

Definitely!! I am guessing that there is this stock pile of these "flawlessly performing humans", and they let them out at sunset every Friday night. Some don't come back to the stock pile Monday morning, so they just add to the pile, and the ones running loose get to 'make our day'.