Identifying what model of PCX125

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Identifying what model of PCX125

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I'm looking to get an aftermarket muffler however they appear to differentiate between JF281000001 to 1999999 and JF281100001 onwards.

So how do I work out which is which?
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Re: Identifying what model of PCX125

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Maybe its lower numbers earlier model, higher numbers with no "to" number later and current eSP model?
Or is that too simple :?
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There isn't such a thing as 125 with eSP. It's not on my bike and even in the advertising Honda brings out does not feature eSP which is only for the 150.
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Re: Identifying what model of PCX125

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they went straight from the original 125 to the 150 here in Oz but in other parts of the world such as parts of Europe where 150 didnt make sense due regulatory limits they brought out a 125esp I believe.
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Taz wrote:they went straight from the original 125 to the 150 here in Oz but in other parts of the world such as parts of Europe where 150 didnt make sense due regulatory limits they brought out a 125esp I believe.

That's correct for the UK
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SmellyTofu wrote:I'm looking to get an aftermarket muffler however they appear to differentiate between JF281000001 to 1999999 and JF281100001 onwards.

So how do I work out which is which?
JF281000001 to 1999999 - is a 2010 first pcx models,in 2011 new re modelled 125 esp came out along with 2012 150 esp with code designation -JF281100001 onwards. Easy......

JF28 stands for Pcx; '10'00001 is a year ie 2010..
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SmellyTofu wrote:There isn't such a thing as 125 with eSP.
This is false. There were 125cc eSPs released before the 150. :D Here's some Honda propaganda: http://world.honda.com/news/2012/212040 ... index.html


PCX 125cc came out first, then the 125 eSP, then the 150. You can tell by looking at the airbox which model you have. The PCX 125esp gets about 5mpg better than the PCX125, with no downside. The PCX150 gets about the same as the eSP model, but as always with scooters, the MPG varies with rider driving style.


I know for a fact that the eSP model has a different exhaust than the 125, but I'm not sure if the 125eSP and the 150 share an exhaust or not.
Currently ride: 2011 Honda PCX 125 - Upgraded windshield and seat, keeping this one mostly stock
Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
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As per what Taz said, perhaps Australia didn't see the 125 eSP variant. My one doesn't have the eSP logo on the airbox.
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I can confirm the UK does have eSP 125 models introduced during the summer of 2012 with the launch of the Red PCX of which I own.

Honda have now added a Petrol Blue 125 PCX to the UK market also with the newer eSP engine. I would presume existing colours Black, White and Grey Silver will also switch to the newer engines when old stock supplies dissipate.
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Now I've just did some digging of my VIN and it appears that my bike was build in 2010. I noticed the compliance plate for Australia was mid 2011 (and I just picked it up 3 weeks ago??!!). Turnover must be really bad for Honda Australia!??!!
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Turnover for motorcycles and scooters in general is usually slow, at least near where I live. Dealers intentionally carry HUGE inventory to give more selection to the customer, which invariably results in a really slow sale rate.

If your airbox looks like this:
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Then you have a standard PCX 125. If not, and if your bike is a 125, then you have the 125eSP regardless of whether or not there is a badge. If your bike is a 150, then it's the PCX150. Easy enough? :lol:
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Thanks MD, I do ... have the regular 125.
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SmellyTofu wrote:Thanks MD, I do ... have the regular 125.
Cool, any standard PCX 125 pipe will fit then, which means a lot more options than are available for the eSP. :D
Currently ride: 2011 Honda PCX 125 - Upgraded windshield and seat, keeping this one mostly stock
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I thought the position of the exhaust outlet is different in the eSP models because it has a different barrel and head?
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gn2 wrote:I thought the position of the exhaust outlet is different in the eSP models because it has a different barrel and head?
Correct -- PCX 125, and PCX 125 eSP have different pipes.
Currently ride: 2011 Honda PCX 125 - Upgraded windshield and seat, keeping this one mostly stock
Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
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Does variator rear different? (Side with clutch).
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Re: Identifying what model of PCX125

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The variators on the 125 versus 150 are different, but interchangable. The 125 variator is significantly cheaper if you're buying OEM parts.
Currently ride: 2011 Honda PCX 125 - Upgraded windshield and seat, keeping this one mostly stock
Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
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gn2 wrote:I thought the position of the exhaust outlet is different in the eSP models because it has a different barrel and head?
Exhaust manifold are different because of the revised engine mounts between models. Nothing else is different much . Cylinder and head are interchangeable but with few smaller minor peripheral parts that need to be changed.
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