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Re: Can a PCX150 stop faster than a FZ-07?

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:57 am
by TheMaverick
gn2 wrote:ABS isn't mandatory in the USA so until it is bikes will continue to have sub standard brakes.
I wonder how many include anti-stoppie? (I've never managed to lock up a front, but I've had the back wheel off the ground).

Re: Can a PCX150 stop faster than a FZ-07?

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:13 am
by you you
TheMaverick wrote:
gn2 wrote:ABS isn't mandatory in the USA so until it is bikes will continue to have sub standard brakes.
I wonder how many include anti-stoppie? (I've never managed to lock up a front, but I've had the back wheel off the ground).

Incredibly difficult with so much weight on the rear.

Re: Can a PCX150 stop faster than a FZ-07?

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:06 pm
by TheMaverick
you you wrote:
TheMaverick wrote:
gn2 wrote:ABS isn't mandatory in the USA so until it is bikes will continue to have sub standard brakes.
I wonder how many include anti-stoppie? (I've never managed to lock up a front, but I've had the back wheel off the ground).

Incredibly difficult with so much weight on the rear.
If you're meaning "it's incredibly difficult to get the back wheel off the ground during emergency braking", it's not. That's because the rider creates a moment by bracing themselves against the handlebars, and both are well above the centre of gravity. More-so for heavier riders. Search for "Scooter Stoppie" on YouTube to see lots of examples.

If you're meaning "it's incredibly difficult to sense & modulate a stoppie due to the weight on the rear wheel" then that doesn't make any sense - there's no weight on the rear wheel during a stoppie. It would probably require an inertial platform like the new CBR1000RR has, but obviously that kind of technology is well beyond what's ever going to be found on a scooter.

Re: Can a PCX150 stop faster than a FZ-07?

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:18 pm
by you you
No. It's incredibly difficult on a PCX. I know. I've tried.

Not pig physics and google research.

Re: Can a PCX150 stop faster than a FZ-07?

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:45 pm
by TheMaverick
you you wrote:No. It's incredibly difficult on a PCX. I know. I've tried.
Then I can only conclude that you're not a very good rider and that you have a poor grasp of physics.

I've done it - more than once. In this very thread you'll note in Post #4 dgnyberg messed up his knee with one.

Regardless - who cares. So for about the 4th (or is it the 5th) time - PLEASE - just leave me alone and stop stalking me all around the board. It's pretty obvious that you only have two issues with me (everything I say and everything I do) - and I think you're the village idiot - so for the love of Christ again I ask PLEASE just put me on ignore and forget I'm ever here. No need to comment on any post I ever make (and I'll return the courtesy) and then I won't need to constantly reply to correct your errors on my posts.

Re: Can a PCX150 stop faster than a FZ-07?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:34 am
by alx123
This is epic. Lol (sorry for the offtopic)

Re: Can a PCX150 stop faster than a FZ-07?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:58 am
by TheMaverick
alx123 wrote:This is epic. Lol (sorry for the offtopic)
My head hurts. Brick wall too thick to suffer damage.