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How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:16 am
by Vince
How do I patch a punctured tire? The rear tire on my 2013 Honda PCX150 has a nail in it.

The local dealership doesn't repair flat tires, because the manufacturer says that it's dangerous. They only replace tires.

However, Youtube tells me that I can buy a tire repair kit at Walmart for under $10.

Is my tire radial or tubeless? (I want to make sure I get the correct repair kit.)

Am I safe just patching the tire instead of replacing it?

I might put 50-100 miles on my scooter at 40-50 mph with about 15-20 stops in between for work. In other words, 5-7 miles in between each stop. The scooter has 19000 miles.

Thanks.

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:02 am
by Jge64
YouTube can show you a lot of things, but that doesn't mean it has merit. On my car, I would patch a tire all day long (and have) but that's because it's got four wheels. On a bike, I'd replace the tire, a spontaneous blowout on a bike can get you killed.

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:41 am
by Vince
Jge64 wrote:On a bike, I'd replace the tire, a spontaneous blowout on a bike can get you killed.
I don't want to get killed.

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:15 am
by homie
I plugged a sport bike tire once, road it until I could replace it. Takes a couple minutes and worked great! Hardly think it would blow out just for a plug and I put 100 miles on the plugged tire. I haven't noticed any radial motorbike tires. I used the same kit as in this video


Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:32 am
by Vince
homie wrote:I plugged a sport bike tire once, road it until I could replace it. Takes a couple minutes and worked great! Hardly think it would blow out just for a plug and I put 100 miles on the plugged tire.
Thanks. I will plug it until I replace the tire then.

Do plugs wear down over time?

Should I replace the tire immediately or just wait until the tread wears down?

This is the third punctured rear tire on this bike, and it costs maybe $250 to replace each time.

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:46 am
by WhiteNoise
Don't be riding it to Heaven's Gate. Plug and replace the tire (again, geez) asap. You own a bike, these things happen. Think safety first (but, you know that already....you're asking these questions :D )

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:54 am
by Vince
WhiteNoise wrote:Don't be riding it to Heaven's Gate. Plug and replace the tire (again, geez) asap. You own a bike, these things happen. Think safety first (but, you know that already....you're asking these questions :D )
thanks. i called yesterday to get a quote on a tire replacement. they should get back to me today. i will path it in the meantime and then put 100 miles on it for work.

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:16 am
by homie
Vince wrote: Do plugs wear down over time?
This is the third punctured rear tire on this bike, and it costs maybe $250 to replace each time.
WOW! you have to stop taking that road :roll: Plugs are permanent, they only wear down to the surface of the tire and last the life of the tire. I have put them in my truck tires as well. Out of sight out of mind, it's no big thing on a car but maybe you find out where these nails are coming from and re-route the alley's and parking lots you take your bike.

Put your location in your profile please, you might be right in my backyard and I have a new extra rear tire, you never know :D

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:49 pm
by you you
Jge64 wrote:YouTube can show you a lot of things, but that doesn't mean it has merit. On my car, I would patch a tire all day long (and have) but that's because it's got four wheels. On a bike, I'd replace the tire, a spontaneous blowout on a bike can get you killed.

A tube can be patched. A tyre plugged.

For the sake of balance a blowout may not occur and if it does you may not be killed.

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:49 pm
by you you
Vince wrote:
Jge64 wrote:On a bike, I'd replace the tire, a spontaneous blowout on a bike can get you killed.
I don't want to get killed.

That's an excellent thought. Cherish it.

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:52 pm
by you you
homie wrote:I plugged a sport bike tire once, road it until I could replace it. Takes a couple minutes and worked great! Hardly think it would blow out just for a plug and I put 100 miles on the plugged tire. I haven't noticed any radial motorbike tires. I used the same kit as in this video


Can can use a self tapper to get you home.

Obviously the suggestion of this will cause spontaneous incontinence amongst the ATGATT,flouro ladies but in the real world of common sense it works fine.

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:00 pm
by gn2
Can a bike tyre be plugged isn't a yes no question.
Depends where the nail is.
If its in the middle section of the tread you're ok.
Sidewall, not advised.
There's plugs and plugs.
Permanent ones require the tyre to be removed and fitted to the inside.
This also allows a visual inspection for internal damage.
Any plug inserted from the outside is an emergency get you home temporary fix.

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:06 pm
by montliz44
And I've had plugs that worked pretty well for a while but leaked a little every day and caused me to get tired of dealing with them.

Johnny

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:09 pm
by Vince
homie wrote:WOW! you have to stop taking that road :roll: Plugs are permanent, they only wear down to the surface of the tire and last the life of the tire. I have put them in my truck tires as well. Out of sight out of mind, it's no big thing on a car but maybe you find out where these nails are coming from and re-route the alley's and parking lots you take your bike.
they are regular roads, speed limit 45.
Put your location in your profile please, you might be right in my backyard and I have a new extra rear tire, you never know :D
:D thanks. i'm near chicago.
you you wrote:A tube can be patched. A tyre plugged.

For the sake of balance a blowout may not occur and if it does you may not be killed.
thanks. :)
gn2 wrote:Can a bike tyre be plugged isn't a yes no question.
Depends where the nail is.
If its in the middle section of the tread you're ok.
Sidewall, not advised.
There's plugs and plugs.
Permanent ones require the tyre to be removed and fitted to the inside.
This also allows a visual inspection for internal damage.
Any plug inserted from the outside is an emergency get you home temporary fix.
the nail is in the middle of the tire. there's a slow leak.

what about this kit?: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Slime-Deluxe ... r/47301725

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:29 pm
by homie
Well Vince... drive you butt over here and pick up a couple new IRC's for your PCX.
Homie don't ride stock tires/tyres/terrs

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:05 pm
by Vince
homie wrote:Well Vince... drive you butt over here and pick up a couple new IRC's for your PCX.
Homie don't ride stock tires/tyres/terrs
wow, really? :D do you have a shop or something?

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:15 pm
by homie
Vince wrote:
homie wrote:Well Vince... drive you butt over here and pick up a couple new IRC's for your PCX.
Homie don't ride stock tires/tyres/terrs
wow, really? :D do you have a shop or something?
Live in the southwest burbs, Naperville area. Text me when you set out and I will give you the address to pick them up... FREE!!! WOT

630-248-0108
Homie

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:26 pm
by Vince
homie wrote:
Vince wrote:
homie wrote:Well Vince... drive you butt over here and pick up a couple new IRC's for your PCX.
Homie don't ride stock tires/tyres/terrs
wow, really? :D do you have a shop or something?
Live in the southwest burbs, Naperville area. Text me when you set out and I will give you the address to pick them up... FREE!!! WOT

630-248-0108
Homie
that's great!! i should be in the area tomorrow. i live in the western burbs, dupage county, addison.

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:10 am
by u33db
I have one of those plug kits but not had occasion to use it.

The only time i would would use it would be as a get-me-home solution if i was stranded somewhere with a blatant hole in my car tyre.

I would not use it on a bike for safety reasons.

A slow puncture is not a good reason to try a plug kit out as it is cheap enough to buy a tyre and fit it yourself with minimal tools. Even if you can't DIY you could buy a used tyre and get that mounted somewhere which is still infinity preferable to plugging.

Re: How do I patch a punctured rear tire? Is it safe?

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:22 am
by you you
As GN2 has alluded to. There are two types of plug. The temporary get you home ones and the permanent ones.

Both are entirely suitable for their intended uses, and it's your choice to use them or not.

Neither will stop the sky falling.