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Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:52 pm
by TheMaverick
Has the radiator been checked?

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:19 am
by megb
TheMaverick wrote:Has the radiator been checked?
Checked for...? :|

Mech2 did make some side-comment the last time about "otherwise maybe we must get a new radiator on there". And also another something about "if we find the piston is cracked" when replacing the head.

...which is all why I'm worried about the expense of committing to the head gasket job, only to find it still doesn't solve the problem! :(

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:09 am
by TheMaverick
megb wrote:
TheMaverick wrote:Has the radiator been checked?
Checked for...? :|

Mech2 did make some side-comment the last time about "otherwise maybe we must get a new radiator on there". And also another something about "if we find the piston is cracked" when replacing the head.

...which is all why I'm worried about the expense of committing to the head gasket job, only to find it still doesn't solve the problem! :(
Just wondering if we're missing the elephant in the room. Could the faulty hose have resulted in a blocked radiator or a failed water pump?

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:35 am
by megb
TheMaverick wrote:
Just wondering if we're missing the elephant in the room. Could the faulty hose have resulted in a blocked radiator or a failed water pump?
I think Mech2 did do that then. He had mentioned before that he's flushed the system a few times, run hoses through, somehow checked that the water is flowing, etc etc. (Can't remember exactly what terms/phrases he used to describe what he did, but I think it matches up to what you're describing re checking that there is a flow of liquid happening)

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:17 am
by springer1
I think Mech2 did do that then. He had mentioned before that he's flushed the system a few times, run hoses through, somehow checked that the water is flowing, etc etc. (Can't remember exactly what terms/phrases he used to describe what he did, but I think it matches up to what you're describing re checking that there is a flow of liquid happening)
Then I agree with you-you's last post. If coolant is verified as flowing when the systems hot and coolant isn't leaking anywhere, then next suspect a head gasket problem. Also, stop using cheap coolant now; they usually are for automotive use and have abrasive silicates ..... scooter & MC coolant pumps have different types of gaskets which cannot tolerate them.

If you don't want to go down this path, you can always sell the scoot, while advising buyers of the unresolved issue.

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:26 am
by you you
springer1 wrote: Then I agree with you-you's last post.

Wot :D. A first :lol:

I think its at least time to pull the plastics and have a good look around. Then whip off the head.

Might as well. Continuing to ride it is a waste of time as a minimum, harmful at worst.

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:50 am
by megb
Thanks for the input, folks! Really appreciate it. I've told Mech2 I want to go ahead with the gasket replacement (though requesting that I only pay him for labour once we've confirmed it works, considering how much I've spent with him on it already!)

Selling the bike has been a consideration. However Honda no longer sells PCXs here (South Africa), and because of the higher price point, I'd find it difficult to replace second-hand too. I really enjoy the ride though and would be so sad to part with it :(

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:53 am
by homie
megb wrote:Selling the bike has been a consideration. However Honda no longer sells PCXs here (South Africa)(
o_O wow! Honda pulled PCX out of South Africa. How do we find out why?

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:26 am
by megb
homie wrote: o_O wow! Honda pulled PCX out of South Africa. How do we find out why?
Not 100% sure, but I heard rumours that it was just too expensive for the market (which is largely dominated by the cheap Chinese junk as far as scooters go). They still import the Elite 125, but not the PCX. :cry:

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:28 am
by WhiteNoise
South Africa? Whoa...welcome megb :P I'm glad to read that some of our gifted mechanic's were able to help you. Cheers to that!

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Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:35 am
by megb
WhiteNoise wrote:South Africa? Whoa...welcome megb :P I'm glad to read that some of our gifted mechanic's were able to help you. Cheers to that!

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For sure, done! :) Didn't even realise I hadn't put that in...

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:00 pm
by Gil
Don't be afraid of the machining of the head, as the work is done by a machine shop. The only draw back might be that the machine shop will have to make new mounting tools for the head, in order to work on it with their machinery. It does sound more and more like a blown head gasket. Because of the overheating, there might be some cracks on the head or cylinder, which would mean a replacement would be in order of that part.

Gil

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:44 am
by megb
All those potential extras are what scare me! Most parts need to be ordered ex Japan, and so are expensive and take 3 weeks to arrive :/

A thought: a friend is going to be in the US soon... any suggestions for good, well-priced spares places that I could order the parts from and have delivered to her while there's there?

And (eek, sorry!) an indication of which parts I would need?

Exchange rate is against me, but maybe it's still cheaper...

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:33 pm
by you you
megb wrote:All those potential extras are what scare me! Most parts need to be ordered ex Japan, and so are expensive and take 3 weeks to arrive :/

A thought: a friend is going to be in the US soon... any suggestions for good, well-priced spares places that I could order the parts from and have delivered to her while there's there?

And (eek, sorry!) an indication of which parts I would need?

Exchange rate is against me, but maybe it's still cheaper...
Don't say her and US in one sentence. You'll have a testosterone pumped Homie all over it/her. :lol: :lol:

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:21 pm
by homie
It's only wednesday youyou and you stopped by the pub again... Oh I can tell :)

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:48 am
by you you
homie wrote:It's only wednesday youyou and you stopped by the pub again... Oh I can tell :)
I wish. Slipped disc :cry:

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:04 am
by megb
Hahaha well, she is just one of your very own Americans going home for a brief trip. So I'm sure she knows how to handle your brand of testosterone-filled men. (How well she's doing with our own brand over here.... that's another question!)

In more useful thoughts... ;P Any suggestions of a reliable online store that I could look at to order the parts to send back with her?

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:13 pm
by you you
megb wrote:Hahaha well, she is just one of your very own Americans going home for a brief trip. So I'm sure she knows how to handle your brand of testosterone-filled men. (How well she's doing with our own brand over here.... that's another question!)

In more useful thoughts... ;P Any suggestions of a reliable online store that I could look at to order the parts to send back with her?

www.horneyhomie.com :D

Re: 2 mechanics, 2 opinions... what do you guys think?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:16 pm
by you you
you you wrote:
homie wrote:It's only wednesday youyou and you stopped by the pub again... Oh I can tell :)
I wish. Slipped disc :cry:

Five days of ibuprofen and aspirin. The dream of the pub on a Friday night lives.

It LIVES!!!

And it's prosecco night :D