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Hi I was wondering is 5 minute enough to warm up the scooter before a ride. Also I noticed when I start it from cold the rear wheel would move a little by after a 6 mile ride the rear wheel does not Move any more

Mike888 wrote:Hi I was wondering is 5 minute enough to warm up the scooter before a ride. Also I noticed when I start it from cold the rear wheel would move a little by after a 6 mile ride the rear wheel does not Move any more

You don't need to warm it up at all.

Mike, I'll say it again, you are way overthinking this. Turn on the ignition, start the bike, strap up your helmet, drive off.

Jge64 wrote:Mike, I'll say it again, you are way overthinking this. Turn on the ignition, start the bike, strap up your helmet, drive off.

NO NO NO !!!!! That is downright dangerous advice...

There is a 187 item checklist you MUST do each time before you ride the scooter, and that is only after you have taken the 1 year class to learn everything about the mighty Honda PCX150. Be very careful, if you mess up in the slightest way, it is likely to go critical on you, and not only blow yourself up, but destroy half the city along with you.

Mike

The rear wheel will spin more at first start up because of higher idle speed. As far as warm up, start and go but not full throttle at first. That's my 2 cents worth.

Jge64 wrote:Mike, I'll say it again, you are way overthinking this. Turn on the ignition, start the bike, strap up your helmet, drive off.

Helmet secured properly before you put the key in the ignition.
Start engine, ride away immediately.

gn2 wrote:

Jge64 wrote:Mike, I'll say it again, you are way overthinking this. Turn on the ignition, start the bike, strap up your helmet, drive off.

Helmet secured properly before you put the key in the ignition.
Start engine, ride away immediately.

+1

Just don't rev the stones off it till it's warmed up a bit.

Never warmed up a Honda scoot and never had any need too.

gn2 wrote:

Jge64 wrote:Mike, I'll say it again, you are way overthinking this. Turn on the ignition, start the bike, strap up your helmet, drive off.

Helmet secured properly before you put the key in the ignition.
Start engine, ride away immediately.

Well maybe a second or two to get full oil pressure...

I've always let my bike warm up a bit I guess from being trained to do that with my car being it was a high revving long stroked motor with very tight clearances. It's probably a little OD for these scoots but it doesn't hurt... I've done so religiously with every cold start and with no surprise, my piston looked like this prior to installing the 164cc kit.

As I would have been if you hadn't warmed it up.

I always believe that the engine will warm up more quickly when running than when it's just idling.

Depends on what climate your operating in. Todays computerized engines do not need a warm up period but I always let my engine warm for about a minute to make sure all the oil is where its supposed to be. Just me, but if I'm in 30(-) deg temps I would give it a few minutes .

Roll bike out of garage, with all gear on except helmet and gloves.
Bikes out. Sidestand down. Put on helmet. Get seated.
Lift sidestand. Turn key to on, squeeze left lever, press start.
This is now my mini warm-up period > Check mirrors/adjust. Put gloves on and away I go.

WN wakes better after a warming minute or two. We human's calls it yawning, stretching and biatching

alx123 wrote:I always believe that the engine will warm up more quickly when running than when it's just idling.

Yes.

easyrider wrote:Depends on what climate your operating in. Todays computerized engines do not need a warm up period but I always let my engine warm for about a minute to make sure all the oil is where its supposed to be. Just me, but if I'm in 30(-) deg temps I would give it a few minutes .

The oil will be mostly where it needs to be before you start it. Full oil pressure takes a second or two. The engines are still mechanical. "Computerisation" whatever that is, the electronics surrounding the engine? Doesn't make any difference. Better machining tolerances and oils will make a difference to something that didn't need a difference making to it in the first place.

But if you feel it's necessary, then it's necessary. Bark at the moon if you want.

WhiteNoise wrote:Roll bike out of garage, with all gear on except helmet and gloves.
Bikes out. Sidestand down. Put on helmet. Get seated.
Lift sidestand. Turn key to on, squeeze left lever, press start.
This is now my mini warm-up period > Check mirrors/adjust. Put gloves on and away I go.

WN wakes better after a warming minute or two. We human's calls it yawning, stretching and biatching

I do do this on bikes tbh. More to make sure I don't stall embassingly

With today's fuel injected systems, as opposed to the older carburetors, the warm up practices of yesteryear are no longer needed.

In extreme cold (-20°C or 0°F and below) a warm up is still valid, but more so for the other mechanical parts (pumps, etc.), not the innards of the motor. If oil isn't getting properly distributed to the innards of the motor within seconds, then you have problems.

you you wrote:As I would have been if you hadn't warmed it up.

Funny, I recall seeing a person on here with score marks along his piston skirt and blowby past the oil scrapers. In addition the clear tube at the end of his air box was disgusting and full of oil which I'm sure you know what that means...

JaeMelo wrote:

you you wrote:As I would have been if you hadn't warmed it up.

Funny, I recall seeing a person on here with score marks along his piston skirt and blowby past the oil scrapers. In addition the clear tube at the end of his air box was disgusting and full of oil which I'm sure you know what that means...

ENGINE WARM UP

Engine warm up is important !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Running High Power, High RPM on a cold engine is HORRIBLE bad for your engine

But engine warm up is not hard, and does not mean you have to wait 5 minutes before each ride... Scooter / bike engines warm up quickly, so if you want your bike to have top performance, and last, it is CRITICAL you do not open the throttle and run the engine hard while cold.

1. I start and let the bike run for a minute, longer is better, but who wants to sit on an idling bike for 5 minutes before each ride, not really practical, and not needed if you do the following...

2. When I start to move, I go very slow for the first block or so., I make sure I keep the RPM's, speed and power level down, just enough throttle to get the bike moving. No opening the throttle more than 1/8, JUST ENOUGH to move...

3. By the second block, I start to open the throttle enough to start to get some normal speed... Maybe 1/3 throttle, normal RPM's, maybe 30 MPH.

4. After a couple blocks of around 30 MPH, 1/3 throttle or so, the engine is warm enough to run high power, and not do damage to the engine.

The engine does not go instantly from Cold to Warm, it is a gradual process, treat it as such. Extremely careful while it is very cold, and a little more power / RPM as it gets closer to operating temperature.

Mike