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Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:50 am
by PCXade
Valiant wrote:It's perfectly comfortable when riding. I do sweat like a pig when I'm parking and locking up my scoot, but I did order a waterproof gear bag so I can stuff my jacket inside once I'm done riding. I also bought some wicking base layers so I spend less time soaked in my own sweat.
Does that wicking stuff work well?
As in, could I get away with having full wicking undergarments, then any othe layer, and winter riding gear and it wont sweat the crap out of me?

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:15 am
by homie
Antibacterial wicking fabrics do as they claim, someday I suspect most close fitting clothing will be of this technology plus now we are stepping into copper fiber laced street garments. Copper (like its common use in fungicides) will destroy bacteria on contact and thus quickly shield the human being from contacts with most of the deadly nasty's we will face in the new world. These technologies are proven, available, and nice to have around but very pricey so send your kids to a good college and maybe they can afford them too. As for me, I'm a prepper and will always purchase a few high tech garments. Of course my wife would call it hording :)

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:34 pm
by WhiteNoise
o_O Ask Chief Armageddon :o

Seriously, I didn't know about these new and upcoming fabrics (is that the right word to use?)
It is Interesting ;) albeit expensive...with a capital E

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:04 pm
by homie
WhiteNoise wrote:o_O Ask Chief Armageddon :o

Seriously, I didn't know about these new and upcoming fabrics (is that the right word to use?)
It is Interesting ;) albeit expensive...with a capital E
Chief says... Amageddon looks like fun but it's rapture that justifies prep. Some say before SHTF and some say after a short but horrible time. It is because of this one deliberately vague scripture Chief will be ready either way. In the case of the former you can have all my stuff good luck, in the case of the later keep your distance, I'm up for the fight :)

He will come like a thief in the night

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:19 pm
by WhiteNoise
Yes, yes they will (note to self: leave complete set of clothes next to bed).
I too have my thoughts, but will not expound on the topic. Chief Read minds ;)
& Jack's been ready o_O
I'm done here. Homie, hold the fort! ;)

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:39 pm
by you you
I haven't laughed so much since my granny died :D

Please carry on :D :D

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:41 pm
by homie
you you wrote:I haven't laughed so much since my granny died :D

Please carry on :D :D
you meant since you ran over a squirrel :lol:

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:12 am
by Valiant
PCXade wrote:
Valiant wrote:It's perfectly comfortable when riding. I do sweat like a pig when I'm parking and locking up my scoot, but I did order a waterproof gear bag so I can stuff my jacket inside once I'm done riding. I also bought some wicking base layers so I spend less time soaked in my own sweat.
Does that wicking stuff work well?
As in, could I get away with having full wicking undergarments, then any othe layer, and winter riding gear and it wont sweat the crap out of me?
Erm, I personally think it might be besides the point if you don't have some good venting to actually evaporate the sweat, otherwise your other layer or winter riding gear will end up soaked in your sweat.

If you just don't want to have that clammy sticky feeling, I'd go with LD Comfort. The inner layer stays dry and pushes all liquids to the surface/outer layer. If I dump water over the shirt, it'll feel wet for a short while, then it feels like wearing a dry cotton shirt. You'll still sweat like a pig, but you'll feel like a comfortable pig.

As far as working well, I'm not too sure any wicking fabric works better than being shirtless under your gear. The LD Comfort fabrics MAY work better with non-mesh jackets, or jackets with vents you can close up.

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:45 pm
by PCXade
So the sweat has to go somewhere and within a multilayered jacket then basically it stays in the jacket.
But you're saying that if you open up the vents even in the winter it will just enought to cool the body down, as even riding in the cold makes you sweat underneath. Case in point.. I have been skiing in -15 and still get hot under the suit. Ok, sure, skiing requires more muscle action but cold alone won't stop it.

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:05 pm
by Valiant
Sounds strange to me. In my experience, riding itself doesn't make me sweat. It's being stopped in ATGATT in direct sunlight that makes me sweat. The only exception being if I'm pulling off some hardcore turns repeatedly like I was doing in my MSF course.

You're correct that the sweat is still there, but the advantage over plain clothes is that the sweat will dry faster as the synthetic material won't hold onto water like cotton does(quite literally takes hours to dry in front of a fan).

You might be able to get away with wearing the LD Comfort fabrics with a vented jacket in the winter, though you'll need to pop open the back vents.

How the instructions explained it was that the fabric works by creating super chilled air from evaporative cooling(so it's standard practice to soak the sleeves). This air should be kept in the jacket buy shutting the vents, and so it doesn't work well with mesh because the cool air escapes from the back. In your case, it shouldn't chill you too much if you pop the back vents open. You should also make sure your sleeves are shut tight so only a minimum of winter air runs through your jacket.

Also, the dry layer pretty much creates a thermally insulated layer, because winter air chilling the sweat on the surface will not let the icy sweat touch your skin. I prefer to wear this at work because of this(and the fact that I'm not soaked in my own sweat), as I never feel too cold inside the refrigerated storage box where we keep our food products.

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:14 pm
by PCXade
Yep, ok, thanks for that. I doubt i will sweat as much as skiing so those undegarments should do fine.
THanks.

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:11 pm
by you you
Ah, life at 40 to 50 mph with all the gear all the time. Spare a thought for those crazy suckers doing 70 or more. They haven't any more gear to put on

Or any more time

Deserve to die I say

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:05 pm
by PCXade
I did manage to touch 60... ha. Bloody windy, didn't like it :)

Just bought a decent jacket with armour.. I can push a bit harder now.

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:33 am
by Valiant
Bought one of these:
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Some insist they're just for off-road, but given that most fatalities are caused by head and neck injuries, I figured it would be cheaper than life as a paraplegic.

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:21 am
by iceman
Erm, what is that and where do you wear it :)

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:24 am
by homie
Val... maybe we get back in the car bro, I don't think you have completely recovered from your accident. It's OK buddy all we need here is a little more time.

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:47 am
by Valiant
iceman wrote:Erm, what is that and where do you wear it :)
That is a neck brace. It goes around your neck :D . Keeps your head from moving in any one direction too far.
homie wrote:Val... maybe we get back in the car bro, I don't think you have completely recovered from your accident. It's OK buddy all we need here is a little more time.
Dunno, I'd look pretty stupid wearing all that gear inside of a car 8) .
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Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:34 pm
by iceman
Valiant - hope you get better soon.

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:13 pm
by homie
iceman wrote:Valiant - hope you get better soon.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: ATGATT or Squidding: What do YOU ride with?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:22 pm
by SECoda
I see they have a motorcycle neck airbag now. Anyone sporting one yet? o_O

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/26 ... AjeR8P8HAQ