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From earlier reply:

maddiedog wrote:I can't find where I read that (it's not in the service or owner's manual).

maddiedog wrote:From earlier reply:

maddiedog wrote:I can't find where I read that (it's not in the service or owner's manual).

Thanks for checking. I'll switch over at 5000 (in another 2500).

This is an outstanding, clear presentation that makes the job a snap. Thanks!

OK sorry this isn't probably a total how to so if maddie wants to move it that's fine

Bored in the garage so changed the oil. 2,400 miles and changed first at 600. Like everything else you do it better by the second time and get the hang of it by the third

First tip is to use a bit of duct tape from the sump to stop the oil running down the mainstand



Cheap and easy. The oil just does what oil does and runs down it

Second tip. Manual says 900ml of oil after the oil screen change. I conservately measured out 850ml and warmed the bike, let it cool and it was slightly overfilled

Took 20ml out by a bellows pipette so 830ml next time

Last tip would be to use a spanner on the oil filter housing at first. Just to crack it. A 17mm socket doesn't fit to well at all. A 12 side on was terrible and a six sided one was still very sloppy

Last changed the oil at 600 miles but was quite surprised at how it had degraded 1,800 miles later

Can't complain though. Half an hour job and the oil strainer was perfectly clean. Didn't even warrant wiping.

Brilliant idea double you! Duct tape! fancy that

WhiteNoise wrote: Brilliant idea double you! Duct tape! fancy that

Do you?

No wait a minute! I immediately edited my post and it didn't fly! I take back what I said after I gave it thought. Do you change oil with cold motor? Rule is to change when hot. Thus oil flows/drains more out. Refilling to proper level then works. Duct tape on hot motor....gooey/sticky/melt.

WhiteNoise wrote:No wait a minute! I immediately edited my post and it didn't fly! I take back what I said after I gave it thought. Do you change oil with cold motor? Rule is to change when hot. Thus oil flows/drains more out. Refilling to proper level then works. Duct tape on hot motor....gooey/sticky/melt.

Hot or cold. It doesn't make any difference

Chill.

I'm not the mechanic in my family, however, my hubby always changes the oil in our vehicles (cars and bikes) when the vehicle is cold and not used for awhile. he has a big flat used oil container that the used oil drains into and then we put that oil back in the original container and take it to the local service station that recycles oil.

I'm comfortable We're taught differently, I'm guessing. To each his/her own (mind/motor).
My Uncle was chief mechanic for Pan American Airlines, and serviced automobiles on the side. He serviced all of mine till he passed. He was strict with oil change procedure. So it goes. I just have to remember to be careful from beginning to end....hate getting burned.
(you you, You Do have me thinking I like the "idea" of a lead from "the sump" to the pan. Thanks

On my second oil change I put the PCX on the side stand and pulled the screen to drain the oil and clean the screen all in one shot. Much easier than putting a drain pan under it while on the center stand and you clean the screen at the same time. Time saver and easier. I clean the screen every oil change.

jlhog wrote:On my second oil change I put the PCX on the side stand and pulled the screen to drain the oil and clean the screen all in one shot. Much easier than putting a drain pan under it while on the center stand and you clean the screen at the same time. Time saver and easier. I clean the screen every oil change.

Good idea. Does it get all the oil out?

Oh now look what I did!
you you, You are right! I changed oil today, that's the good news. But damn! Take a Look at my oil screen bolt Crap!
I read your previous post after my wrong doing I did Not use a wrench/spanner on it First (curse again)...and the two "proper" sized sockets I used Didn't fit snugly! why? (what the __) I swear that damn bolt is tight as a ****(bleep this)****!!!!!
Color me Red!!
Can't get the bolt to budge! Now what? How do I remove it?? Help!! Anybody???
Guess I'm ordering a New Oil Strainer Bolt? Or assembly?
Me and the White....not getting along today

Looks like you used a twelve sided socket needs to be a spanner or six sided. Have you tried a spanner on it. Looks as if it'll still work. Use an adjustable one and tighten it undersize and tap it on?

Don't worry there are still a few ways. I'd try them in this order but let's see what suggestions others have

Use a cold chisel or old screwdriver and hammer and whack it round

Mole grips

File a flat in it for a large screwdriver


Before trying any of these I'd also make sure the bike was warmed up and I'd give the cap a reasonable ( but not too hard) crack face on to free the threads.

Good morning yous! Thanks for your quick reply and advice.
I'm calmer today. Life moves on (that sounds good, don't it?)
Here's my order of tool usage on the oil screen bolt:
(Oh, the bike Was warmed up first as I drained the oil prior to this).

Ratchet with Six sided 17mm socket then 12 sided 17 mm socket. I tried both sockets with and without a short ratchet extension. No budging.
Then I tried tapping the ratchet arm (with a 6 sided socket on the bolt) with a hammer. OMG, right!?
No luck. All I accomplished was beating it up. These tools kept slipping off it's rounded edges.
Then only then, did I grab my stubby length gear spanner (same as word wrench in USA). I tried it by itself on gear end then reversed it to open end side and tapped again with my hammer. SOB won't budge!

I have to say, this alloy casting is Soft, it was chipping off in places & gathering on the cardboard in bits beneath it. So Sad.
It also angers me that the housing around this bolt is SO small that you can't turn a wrench around. Mad at Honda. Why such confinement?
"I've done" my oil change before, but I had my neighbor open this "problem" bolt then. This sure is one Tuff nut to crack!
I appreciate your suggestions and I am open to others. I can't get tuit today anyway....I'm off to Mom.

Hey! it Snowed here this a.m.......just a dusting. Guess I timed my service right, but still want to ride a bit longer. I've got the proper clothing 4 sure. Have a good day All!!

WhiteNoise wrote:Good morning yous! Thanks for your quick reply and advice.
I'm calmer today. Life moves on (that sounds good, don't it?)
Here's my order of tool usage on the oil screen bolt:
(Oh, the bike Was warmed up first as I drained the oil prior to this).

Ratchet with Six sided 17mm socket then 12 sided 17 mm socket. I tried both sockets with and without a short ratchet extension. No budging.
Then I tried tapping the ratchet arm (with a 6 sided socket on the bolt) with a hammer. OMG, right!?
No luck. All I accomplished was beating it up. These tools kept slipping off it's rounded edges.
Then only then, did I grab my stubby length gear spanner (same as word wrench in USA). I tried it by itself on gear end then reversed it to open end side and tapped again with my hammer. SOB won't budge!

I have to say, this alloy casting is Soft, it was chipping off in places & gathering on the cardboard in bits beneath it. So Sad.
It also angers me that the housing around this bolt is SO small that you can't turn a wrench around. Mad at Honda. Why such confinement?
"I've done" my oil change before, but I had my neighbor open this "problem" bolt then. This sure is one Tuff nut to crack!
I appreciate your suggestions and I am open to others. I can't get tuit today anyway....I'm off to Mom.

Hey! it Snowed here this a.m.......just a dusting. Guess I timed my service right, but still want to ride a bit longer. I've got the proper clothing 4 sure. Have a good day All!!

De nada chica

Its not a huge thing to worry about tbh. Change the oil frequently and it's not going to clog the filter. Ignoring it could be an option.

If it's any consolation I nearly snapped of a plastic lug removing the plastics changing the rollers recently. Left a screw in!!

you you wrote:

WhiteNoise wrote:Good morning yous! Thanks for your quick reply and advice.
I'm calmer today. Life moves on (that sounds good, don't it?)
Here's my order of tool usage on the oil screen bolt:
(Oh, the bike Was warmed up first as I drained the oil prior to this).

Ratchet with Six sided 17mm socket then 12 sided 17 mm socket. I tried both sockets with and without a short ratchet extension. No budging.
Then I tried tapping the ratchet arm (with a 6 sided socket on the bolt) with a hammer. OMG, right!?
No luck. All I accomplished was beating it up. These tools kept slipping off it's rounded edges.
Then only then, did I grab my stubby length gear spanner (same as word wrench in USA). I tried it by itself on gear end then reversed it to open end side and tapped again with my hammer. SOB won't budge!

I have to say, this alloy casting is Soft, it was chipping off in places & gathering on the cardboard in bits beneath it. So Sad.
It also angers me that the housing around this bolt is SO small that you can't turn a wrench around. Mad at Honda. Why such confinement?
"I've done" my oil change before, but I had my neighbor open this "problem" bolt then. This sure is one Tuff nut to crack!
I appreciate your suggestions and I am open to others. I can't get tuit today anyway....I'm off to Mom.

Hey! it Snowed here this a.m.......just a dusting. Guess I timed my service right, but still want to ride a bit longer. I've got the proper clothing 4 sure. Have a good day All!!

De nada chica

Its not a huge thing to worry about tbh. Change the oil frequently and it's not going to clog the filter. Ignoring it could be an option.

Agree cleaning this filter is not so important.

OK I don't know if this means anything to you guys and gals who wanted to know where Honda recommended synthetic oil but the oil that is recommended in the service manual is'Pro Honda HP4M 4-stroke oil'. I looked that up on the internet and it says that THAT particular oil is synthetic blend.

By the way, Honda's own brochure says the HP4M is a synthetic/mineral oil blend. No mention of Dino fliud.