Scrape-ing side-stand or rear-stand when cornering
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Scrape-ing side-stand or rear-stand when cornering
Hi,
I've not got my scooter yet, but I'm amazed how often I hear scraping noises in video's of scooters when cornering at what seems moderate speed. The riders sometimes comment on this but it seems to be due to the lower ground clearance of scooters and the stands. Perhaps it takes time for people to get to know the limits of their scooter and how to take turns (slow down) or if it's one of those things.
I wonder how often this happens to PCX users once they have ridden the bike for a while, and is it just annoying or dangerous?
I've not got my scooter yet, but I'm amazed how often I hear scraping noises in video's of scooters when cornering at what seems moderate speed. The riders sometimes comment on this but it seems to be due to the lower ground clearance of scooters and the stands. Perhaps it takes time for people to get to know the limits of their scooter and how to take turns (slow down) or if it's one of those things.
I wonder how often this happens to PCX users once they have ridden the bike for a while, and is it just annoying or dangerous?
Re: Scrape-ing side-stand or rear-stand when cornering
The PCX has adequate ground clearance.
In 18,000 miles I only scraped mine a handful of times.
In 18,000 miles I only scraped mine a handful of times.
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Re: Scrape-ing side-stand or rear-stand when cornering
I have roughly 8k miles on my PCX, and removed the centerstand at around 6k miles. It scraped a few times before I removed it, but I was way leaned into the turn.
I removed it because of a known fault with the centerstand on only the 2011 models to prevent damage to my crankcase.
I removed it because of a known fault with the centerstand on only the 2011 models to prevent damage to my crankcase.
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Re: Scrape-ing side-stand or rear-stand when cornering
Thanks for the info.
Re: Scrape-ing side-stand or rear-stand when cornering
I have scraped my centerstand on a few hard left corners
maybe I am having a lil too much fun?
maybe I am having a lil too much fun?
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Re: Scrape-ing side-stand or rear-stand when cornering
When we went up into the North Georgia mountains there was a particular road that motorcyclists love because of the curves. If you lean into the curve too much on any scooter something will scrape, usually the center stand. On this particular road it is almost impossible NOT to scrape the center stand, especially with the hairpin turns. Still, if you know your scooter you will get through it with only a few scrapes. It is just part of what makes it all fun!
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Re: Scrape-ing side-stand or rear-stand when cornering
I'm still not used to leaning that far. Any tips for training yourself to become comfortable with your level of grip?
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Re: Scrape-ing side-stand or rear-stand when cornering
Which tyres do you have?
I have plenty grip with the stock Dunlops.
I need to shift my body to reduce chances of scraping the centerstand.
If the road is not clean and dry, then I corner very slowly.
I have plenty grip with the stock Dunlops.
I need to shift my body to reduce chances of scraping the centerstand.
If the road is not clean and dry, then I corner very slowly.
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Re: Scrape-ing side-stand or rear-stand when cornering
I have the oem dunlops which are ok. I just had an incident this past fall where there was dew on the road one morning and i went over a grease spot and had the back tire come out from under me as if i started to lean into my turn and the bike just kept going. I was only going 15mph or so when it happened; picked up the bike and rode home. I haven't leaned very far since. At the same time it hasn't been over 40 degrees Fahrenheit on a regular basis since that either so I've been cautious and haven't thrown myself back into the corners for fear of loss of adhesion.
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Re: Scrape-ing side-stand or rear-stand when cornering
.Mel46 wrote:When we went up into the North Georgia mountains there was a particular road that motorcyclists love because of the curves. If you lean into the curve too much on any scooter something will scrape, usually the center stand. On this particular road it is almost impossible NOT to scrape the center stand, especially with the hairpin turns. Still, if you know your scooter you will get through it with only a few scrapes. It is just part of what makes it all fun!
Mel
is that Wolf Pen Gap Rd ??
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Re: Scrape-ing side-stand or rear-stand when cornering
Could be -- I've scraped peg on bigger bikes on the hairpin on Wolf Pen Gap. There's one that's particularly notorious...
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Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes