Acceleration test

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Acceleration test

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I know this forum is not all about performance and more commuter centric. I come from a very performance oriented background and still work in the industry. I had hopes for this PCX to accelerate as fast as possible not so much top speed. Just wanted to compare Apples to Apples.

Would be cool to compare 0-40MPH times. I use the TRC app that gives you MPH, and even digital 1/4mile times and so on. Who wants to play? Fill in the blanks and post screenshots of what you got.

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Driveface:
Weight style and size:
Intake:
Exhaust:
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Tires:
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Variator: NCY
Driveface: NCY
Weight style and size: DP Sliders 11.15g average
Intake: Steady Garage
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Belt:Stock
Tires:140 rear
Clutch: Stock
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This is great, I'll post mine as soon as I add the new Variator. My NCY is toast.
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Gil wrote:This is great, I'll post mine as soon as I add the new Variator. My NCY is toast.
Try a Before and after. ;)
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Stopping competitions would be more relevant to scooter riders.
Even a Chinese 50 can beat cars away from a stop light.
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fish wrote:Stopping competitions would be more relevant to scooter riders.
Even a Chinese 50 can beat cars away from a stop light.
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I 'd like to see acceleration results.
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I read your post too late and didn't do a before and after. I was running the OEM variator with the NCY outer face. The NCY variator inner bore went out of spec, allowing for too much play that resulted in slugish acceleration due to binding of the variator with the boss.

My top speed now is 64 MPH. I had Dr. Pulley before and now I have a mix of round weights. Belt is within spec.


Boss: Kitaco Power up Pulley boss
Variator: MFR
Driveface: MFR
Weight style and size: three 11g and three 15g
Intake:stock
Exhaust:MFR
Belt:stock
Tires: Michelin city grip
Clutch: SH100 clutch I think.
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My top speed with the NCY and DR.pulley 13g weights before was ~71 MPH. I didn't use the Dr. Pulley weights because they looked worn out, but I might just try them out again.
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Gil wrote:My top speed with the NCY and DR.pulley 13g weights before was ~71 MPH. I didn't use the Dr. Pulley weights because they looked worn out, but I might just try them out again.
Cool results Gil. Was curious how stock variator would stack up.
fish wrote:Stopping competitions would be more relevant to scooter riders.
Even a Chinese 50 can beat cars away from a stop light.
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Yeah, Much more dangerous to attempt this as opposed to 0-40 acceleration. Plus Rider Experience plays a big roll as well.

Like Drag racing with and without radials. lol
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Changed the weights to 11g, when I open the cvt to see if the variator was moving the belt all the way out. It looks like the MFR kit was fully closed, but wasn't pushing the belt all the way out, bummer. With the 11 gram weights the top speed was now 66 mph, I think the same as before with the exception of the engine rev limit feel. One question though, do you guys add grease to the boss?

Acceleration did feel better though. So, with the top speed of 66 and good acceleration I'm gonna leave the 11 gram weights in. I did purchase the Kitaco gear up kit that adds 3 mph more, but will do that when the rear tire needs changing.

Boss: Kitaco Power up Pulley boss
Variator: MFR
Driveface: MFR
Weight style and size: 11g roller weightg
Intake:stock
Exhaust:MFR
Belt:stock
Tires: Michelin city grip
Clutch: SH100 clutch I think.
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Had time for 1 run today. I think I have 11.5 grams of rollers right now but can't remember for sure.
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vamootsman wrote:Had time for 1 run today. I think I have 11.5 grams of rollers right now but can't remember for sure.
Holy Cow!!! thats FLYIN!!!

Thats really good. Wonder how yours is so quick. Thank you for sharing.
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Conelite wrote:
vamootsman wrote:Had time for 1 run today. I think I have 11.5 grams of rollers right now but can't remember for sure.
Holy Cow!!! thats FLYIN!!!

Thats really good. Wonder how yours is so quick. Thank you for sharing.
It definitely has a lot to do with how you launch her, but mine has always screamed off the line. It's stays in it's power band all the way to 8300rpm's then runs out of power to go faster than 65-70 unless there's now wind or I'm drafting. For a 150 I don't think you could ask or expect anymore. On the rural highways of Iowa it's a good as any motorcycle and way easier to ride.
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vamootsman wrote:Had time for 1 run today. I think I have 11.5 grams of rollers right now but can't remember for sure.
Holy Cow!!! thats FLYIN!!!

Thats really good. Wonder how yours is so quick. Thank you for sharing.
It definitely has a lot to do with how you launch her, but mine has always screamed off the line. It's stays in it's power band all the way to 8300rpm's then runs out of power to go faster than 65-70 unless there's now wind or I'm drafting. For a 150 I don't think you could ask or expect anymore. On the rural highways of Iowa it's a good as any motorcycle and way easier to ride.
Just curious Vamoon. Looking at your chart would lead me to believe you accelerated from 5-40mph in around a second? Wonder why its so different from Gils and mine.
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I have no idea. Maybe the app malfunctioned. Guess I'll have to go do it a few more times.
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I have no idea. Maybe the app malfunctioned. Guess I'll have to go do it a few more times. I did it after about 5 minutes of riding so I know the belt wasn't very hot. Felt like the front wheel was going to come off the ground. Could be a fluke, or luck, or just perfect timing. Don't know for sure, but it felt really awesome.
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Conelite wrote:
vamootsman wrote: It definitely has a lot to do with how you launch her, but mine has always screamed off the line. It's stays in it's power band all the way to 8300rpm's then runs out of power to go faster than 65-70 unless there's now wind or I'm drafting. For a 150 I don't think you could ask or expect anymore. On the rural highways of Iowa it's a good as any motorcycle and way easier to ride.
Just curious Vamoon. Looking at your chart would lead me to believe you accelerated from 5-40mph in around a second? Wonder why its so different from Gils and mine.
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Something wrong with your graphs compared to the orginals - at least with Gil's. The original post shows 40 at around 6.5x, your graoh shows 40 reached at around 7.5x? (it would not let me quote >4 times so I edited away so quotes - now the three graphs do not show so you will need to scroll up a bit)
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Yeah I used the wrong graph for Gil's post. lol

Here is the right one with the right time. You can see how ours goes a bit past 40mph.
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Can't wait try this out later...
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I tried using the app... Set it for 0 to 40 mph.. Hit start twice... Locked into GPS... Ready... GO!!

Then I get to 60 mph and nothing happens. No "races" stored in the history. Nada. What am I doing wrong?
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