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Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:16 am
by Deksx
Hi all,

I have posted this in the general section. Hopefully it's in the right place

About 5 weeks ago I came off the Forza when I was going round a bend. The bike just slipped under me and slid , hit the curb and tippled over causing cosmetic damage to both sides. Some people stopped to hep me and I started up the bike and road it home.

Now that my ankle is healing (ligaments) I decided to ride it to work this morning for the first time after parking it up after the slide. When I tried using the electronic remote the bike didn't respond at all. I tried the spare remote and again nothing. No sign of life at all on the bike and I wonder if for some reason the battery has died in connection with the accident. I've no idea why this could be.

My question is due to the bike being locked and the seat also locked. How do I get to the battery to try to charge it? I presume the battery is located under the seat somewhere? With the remote fob there is a plastic hex thing which I think is used somehow if the battery in the fob has died. Can anyone give me basic instructions how I use this or how I can gain access to under the seat. If I can pop the seat i can access the bike manual to check how to access the battery

Thankyou for reading and hopefully helping me out

Kind regards

Deks

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:58 am
by smoothOperator
have a look here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scrUTdApUhg

He shows the procedure for the SH.
The only difference is on the Forza you'll find the plug for the blue emergency connector under the seat.

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:48 am
by springer1
Sounds like another good reason use a trickle charger with a external plugin adaptor. If the battery goes, simply plug in the charger to have enough current to activate the switch.

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:10 pm
by you you
Hopefully you gave it a good check over before riding again after your crash apart from noticing it wouldn’t start after a few weeks.

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:21 pm
by davenowherejones
The Forza has some kind of tip over sensor. Does it need to be reset? Not sure what it is.

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:59 am
by FORZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-s0EIMUyRg

Feel with your fingers for gap then pull up the top then it should be free - its held by four tabs - two lower down

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:49 am
by Old Grinner
Sounds like another good reason use a trickle charger with a external plugin adaptor. If the battery goes, simply plug in the charger to have enough current to activate the switch.
Great advice!

Whatever you ride with smart keys or newer technology that is power dependent . . .. :D

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:54 pm
by Deksx
Thanks for the helpful replies. I clipped off the front plastic piece. The one directly under the ignition dial and used the black hex thing to pop the boot.

The battery was totally flat, I've had it on charge for 24 hours and its starting fine now. I ordered one of the battery trickler things today for £13 off Amazon so you can just plug it to the terminal which I'll just have under seat.

The bad thing now is the steering isn't straight anymore it's about 5 degrees out when going in a straight line. I'm hoping it's not bent forks and it's like a pushbike where you can adjust it back straight. I'm going to book it into the garage tomorrow for it looking at

Fingers crossed

Mike

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:44 pm
by FORZY
If it is only slightly out you could try to tap the front tyre against a high kerb at a slight angle

Mine was very slightly out from new, so that's what I did to cure it

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:19 pm
by Deksx
Hi Forzy,

I'd say it is about 5 to 10 degrees out. I'm rubbish when it comes to mechanics but I found a diagram on a web search it looked like there may be a possibility the main column is clamped and it could be that can be adjusted.

I'll book it in at the dealer and if its going to cost too much I may as well claim off my insurance and get all the cosmetic damage sorted as well. I have 10 years no claims insurance and I really don't want to lose that but maybe I should get the bike back to perfect for the sake of around £800 for excess and lost no claims

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:24 pm
by Deksx
Thinking about it, it's probably not 10 degrees but it is very noticeable so I'll guess it at 5 degrees

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:48 am
by FORZY
I'll book it in at the dealer
I think that's probably wise, then, they can give it a good check over

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:16 pm
by Deksx
Aye Forzy, it's booked on Tuesday. I'll post here the details.

On a side note I rode it to work and back today which is approx 50 miles. I didn't notice anything bad. It tops out at 90 mph. I'm 6ft tall and will look at getting the 4" taller screen as at this speed it really smashes into your helmet and the noise is deafening

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:17 pm
by Deksx
It saddens me to say that as from today I am no longer a proud Forza 300 2019 owner. I ended up claiming through the insurance and they have written my baby off. A really sad day, I even cried this morning

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:27 pm
by gn2
Deksx wrote:It saddens me to say that as from today I am no longer a proud Forza 300 2019 owner. I ended up claiming through the insurance and they have written my baby off. A really sad day, I even cried this morning
Don't be sad, you now get to go and buy an Xmax 300 instead.
Much better. 8)

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:51 pm
by you you
PCXs are good

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:36 pm
by FORZY
Deksx wrote:It saddens me to say that as from today I am no longer a proud Forza 300 2019 owner. I ended up claiming through the insurance and they have written my baby off. A really sad day, I even cried this morning
Did the insurance offer a new replacement ?

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:30 am
by dick the den
you you wrote:PCXs are good
So are Honda sh125 mode,s

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:46 pm
by halluinoid
sorry to hear of your accident Deksx :( that is bad
About 5 weeks ago I came off the Forza when I was going round a bend.
did you return to the accident scene? can you think of anymore details about what caused the accident? we all drive around bends every day and dont come off

what happened ?

good info on the dead battery situation, I never even saw that coming

Re: Opening seat on Forza 300 with a suspected dead battery

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:31 am
by mozza145
es anybody know where I can obtain a genuine emergency key?