Rollers or Sliders

Drivetrain upgrades, engine upgrades, or any other mods to gain speed or acceleration.

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Rollers or Sliders

I use Rollers
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28%
I use Sliders
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19%
Weight 10
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9%
Weight 11
3
4%
Weight 12
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4%
Weight 13
19
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Weight 14
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Weight 15
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Re: Rollers or Sliders

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10g is best balance for highest acelaration and unpeded top speed runs on 125cc model.
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Mel46 wrote:If you have a 125 cc and just want to give your bike quicker acceleration off the line, but do not need greater top end, then drop down to 10 gram rollers OR 10 gram sliders, whichever you can get your hands on. This is a quick and easy swap if you have the tools. A shop can do it in 15 minutes.
Thank you for your answer, I go a long time on the road, I do not go for city, 10gr seems to me very little, what I want to achieve is for the bike to reach the red zone easily but not lose speed, I weight 100kg.

I install them I have tool and knowledge of mechanics is very easy what I want to know is the exact weight because the slippers cost 40 € and I do not want to throw the money in the trash.
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Re: Rollers or Sliders

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13 150(stock) = 12g sliders
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In Spain the 150cc model is not marketed, the models are 125cc then you decide that 10gr sliders in 125cc?
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Yes, 10 gram should work fine. If at some point you want to increase the top end (max speed), then you will have to change your variator AND drive face as well. For right now though, just change to 10 gram sliders.
Make sure your belt does not have more than 3,000 miles on it or you may not see as much of an increase as you could. As the belt gets worn your top end will go down, and you may feel some slipping on takeoff.
However, if you can not afford to replace your belt yet, don't worry about it. Just get the sliders. I think you will be happy with the improvement.
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Re: Rollers or Sliders

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So dropping from 18g to 13g or 12g rollers doesn't send you to the rev limiter at lower speed than what its suppose to be? I'm still a newb with CVT tuning on the 2013 pcx 150 and use to tuning a ruckus.
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Magic rpm number for cvt set up is 8000rpm. Best accelaration, unaffected top speed. On 125 that's 10g weights. What weight will do that on 150? Unless someone uses a tachometer we don't know if the weight is 12g or 13g...
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Several of the members tried 12 gram rollers and found that the 13 gram rollers were better. However, I have heard that since sliders act a little differently 12.5 gram sliders might work best. I guess to get that they mixed 12 and 13 gram sliders.
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Mel46 wrote:Several of the members tried 12 gram rollers and found that the 13 gram rollers were better. However, I have heard that since sliders act a little differently 12.5 gram sliders might work best. I guess to get that they mixed 12 and 13 gram sliders.
My belt has more than 3000 miles and I notice that it costs more to reach the top speed.

Thank you very much for your reply, I will look for 10gr dr.pulley slippers and install them on my PCX 125cc.

http://www.virtualracingmotos.com/virtu ... w070).html

Which drive is the most advisable?

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Re: Rollers or Sliders

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If you can't get NCY, I understand that Malossi is a good set. Remember to change your belt too.
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Mel46 wrote:If you can't get NCY, I understand that Malossi is a good set. Remember to change your belt too.
Ok, as you tell me I will get 10gr dr.pulley sliders and I will try to see how that works on my PCX 125 thanks

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Re: Rollers or Sliders

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Ok I have a 2015 150 PCX That I would like to get a bit more top end. So just what do I need and who has what I will need to order. I am a bit confused If my bike lets say does 65 mph now and the rev limiter stops it at that how will rollers or slides let it go faster and will it be worth the money to do this. Thanks for any help.
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ItBeMe wrote:Ok I have a 2015 150 PCX That I would like to get a bit more top end. So just what do I need and who has what I will need to order. I am a bit confused If my bike lets say does 65 mph now and the rev limiter stops it at that how will rollers or slides let it go faster and will it be worth the money to do this. Thanks for any help.
As Mel46 has said in the 150cc model slip DR.PULLEY 13gr and new strap your motorcycle will have a little more top speed and better response, if not with the GLP variator best.

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Re: Rollers or Sliders

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For those in the United States, you can get the NCY variator. Those members in other countries may not be able to.
IF YOU CAN NOT GET THE NCY VARIATOR THEN GET A MALOSSI VARIATOR.

IF YOU CAN:
Get the NCY variator AND drive face. Also get the 13 gram NCY rollers, as 13 gram sliders do not get along with Teflon coated variators.
The end result will be well worth it. You will get a higher top end by about 10 mph...close to or right on 75 mph. With the 13 gram rollers you will get up to speed much quicker as well. DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE DESCRIPTION THAT IT IS FOR 125cc. It works with all models of PCX.

http://www.corsportusa.com/2010-honda-p ... ights-13g/
http://www.corsportusa.com/2010-honda-p ... on-pulley/
http://www.corsportusa.com/2010-honda-p ... rive-face/

I hope this clears up a lot of confusion.
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Re: Rollers or Sliders

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Ok Mel I ordered all 3 parts. So I hope to get at least 125 mph top end now. LOL
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Re: Rollers or Sliders

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Would you be disappointed at 124???
Remember that if your belt has high enough miles on it you will lose some speed. Better to change it at the same time if it has 3,000 miles on it. That way you won't have any disappointment...except when it only gets 124 mph... :-/ (OK, just a little less than that, but you won't notice because you will be trying to keep your bike on the ground..)
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Re: Rollers or Sliders

Post by Smaug »

Mine's stock, a 150cc 2013 model, so I voted rollers/15g.

When they eventually wear down, I'll probably get the NCY bits recommended on pg. 1. I'm happy with the stock acceleration, but would like another 5 mph on top.
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Re: Rollers or Sliders

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Decent topic to bring back up. What is everyone running these days?
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Re: Rollers or Sliders

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I am running 3- 13Gram rollers and 3- 10 gram rollers at the moment. Way better than 13 gram in my opinion.
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Anyone running 10g rollers in their NCY variator?

If yes, does it affect fuel consumption and top speed?
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