The Honda PCX / Honda Forza / SH Forums

Your predominant source of information for the Honda PCX 125, Honda PCX ESP, Honda PCX 150, and Forza. Now featuring a SH300i / SH150i subforum!
It is currently Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:30 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 43 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:16 am 
Offline
New Member
New Member

Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:12 pm
Posts: 12
Year: 2013
Color: Red
Anyone else buy the 2018 PCX and make performance upgrades? I rode a 2013 PCX for 3 years before getting a new one and I added rollers to the old one. For some reason my 2018 seems really slow. I even got beat by a Vespa today which really pissed me off. Thinking of getting rollers again. Anyone try this yet on the 2018 model? Any difference?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:25 am 
Offline
Bangkok Rider
Bangkok Rider
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:58 am
Posts: 510
Location: Thailand
Year: 2016
Color: Fast White
If it's a vespa 300 then it's okay. But if you intend on racing, sell the PCX and buy a bigger bike.

Rollers on the PCX not gonna help you against an R6 for example..that will piss you off for sure

_________________
Everything looks better from the inside of a motorcycle helmet...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:25 pm 
Offline
New Member
New Member

Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:12 pm
Posts: 12
Year: 2013
Color: Red
Hey Alx123,
It def wasnt a 300, so the CC was the same as the PCX. Im not interested in going fast on another bike. Id like to go fast on my PCX :). Anyone add a turbo to a PCX ever? Might just do rollers and be happy.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:50 pm 
Offline
Forum Benefactor
Forum Benefactor

Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:43 pm
Posts: 2237
Location: London, England
Year: 2015 125
Color: White
The new ones are a few % down on past models for performance but not too much behind

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:19 pm 
Offline
Prestige
Prestige
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:49 pm
Posts: 5704
Location: Chicagoland
Year: 2015 PCX150
Color: Pearl White
In 2015 along with the LED lights and redesigned body structure Honda changed the gearing on PCX. It slowed down the new PCX enough that any earlier models, greyhounds, ostrich and a some chickens according to Mr. Chin can out run it. Put the entire NCY vario kit with 13 gram rollers (not just rollers and only 13g) and you will blow them all away... including the chickens.

Place your location in your profile and maybe somebody will direct you to the parts locally. I believe 78mph downhill with a tailwind on stock rubber is the best you can expect with NCY.

_________________
PCX Whisperers: maddiedog- dem0nk1d- waspmike- dasshreddar- GN- sendler2112- honkerman- DAB- BPT7594- Oyabun- silverantec- chicaboo- ThailandPCX- Dragon_uk- TrumpMAGA- k2apache6.0- pcx power-full- JaeMelo- markgj- Techno


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:33 pm 
Offline
New Member
New Member

Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:12 pm
Posts: 12
Year: 2013
Color: Red
Iceman - about how much % did they lose? Why did they do this?

Homie - I care mostly about acceleration and less about top speed. I added 12g rollers to my previous PCX (2013) and definitely felt a pick up difference. Do I need the NCY vario kit or can I just add 12g rollers or maybe lighter like last time?

This might sound crazy but has anyone put a turbo on a PCX ever?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:43 pm 
Offline
Bangkok Rider
Bangkok Rider
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:58 am
Posts: 510
Location: Thailand
Year: 2016
Color: Fast White
I got outran by almost any 150 and below moped around here (Bangkok). The 2016 up model is slow, engine designed for fuel efficiency, and the PCx is heavy for its displacement. That Vespa probably outran you because it is lighter.

NMAX and Aerox run circles around me here. I call mine a chicken chaser.

But 13g rollers might help a little. Thai people changed to thinner tires and ditch the alloy wheels for spokes wheels.

_________________
Everything looks better from the inside of a motorcycle helmet...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:48 pm 
Offline
Bangkok Rider
Bangkok Rider
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:58 am
Posts: 510
Location: Thailand
Year: 2016
Color: Fast White
these guys always leave me in smokes and dusts all the time..

their stock exhaust is also modified for less restriction, i can tell by the way it sounds..

and probably some variator mods for sure..

i was always left with the chickens to deal with..


Attachments:
pcxblahblah.jpg
pcxblahblah.jpg [ 71.15 KiB | Viewed 792 times ]

_________________
Everything looks better from the inside of a motorcycle helmet...
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:57 pm 
Offline
Regular User
Regular User
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:20 pm
Posts: 230
Location: Watsonville, CA
Year: 2013
Color: black
Do you know the benefits of those spoked wheels? Faster scoot? lower rolling resistance?

Gil

_________________
ImageImage
    2013 Honda PCX 150, NCY Variator kit, Dr Pulley 12g Roller weights
    IRC tires, LED driving lights, Besten trunk


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:06 am 
Offline
Bangkok Rider
Bangkok Rider
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:58 am
Posts: 510
Location: Thailand
Year: 2016
Color: Fast White
^^ that will allow them to put on the thinnest tires possible, thus lighter and faster.

_________________
Everything looks better from the inside of a motorcycle helmet...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:17 am 
Offline
Regular User
Regular User
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:20 pm
Posts: 230
Location: Watsonville, CA
Year: 2013
Color: black
Do you know where one could purchase those?
Sounds interesting.


Gil

_________________
ImageImage
    2013 Honda PCX 150, NCY Variator kit, Dr Pulley 12g Roller weights
    IRC tires, LED driving lights, Besten trunk


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:16 am 
Offline
Prestige
Prestige
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:49 pm
Posts: 5704
Location: Chicagoland
Year: 2015 PCX150
Color: Pearl White
CaliCal wrote:
Homie - I care mostly about acceleration and less about top speed. I added 12g rollers to my previous PCX (2013) and definitely felt a pick up difference. Do I need the NCY vario kit or can I just add 12g rollers or maybe lighter like last time? This might sound crazy but has anyone put a turbo on a PCX ever?
I haven't tried just 12g rollers in a stock vario but I did put 12g in the NCY vario and it did have higher RPM off the block but was unsatisfactory for the rest of the power band. 13g is the sweet spot for that aftermarket kit. Go ahead and experiment with rollers in a stock vario as you did with your 2013 and report your findings please, this is how we all learn new things. No turbo charged PCX has been shown in here yet :lol:

I want to mention if you used those bicycle wheels on a PCX you would lose weight and mass for sure but wouldn't you bust your butt pretty quick on just about any surface or weather condition that was even slightly less than bone dry and clear of all debris?
Yes, I think you would :D I'll run with the chickens thank you


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:47 am 
Offline
Prestige
Prestige
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:49 pm
Posts: 5704
Location: Chicagoland
Year: 2015 PCX150
Color: Pearl White
Again we don't know where you are but if you're in California I still have these 12 gram rollers with 2 miles on them if you want them PM your addy and I'll get them moving out of my inventory ASAP.



Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:51 am 
Offline
New Member
New Member

Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:12 pm
Posts: 12
Year: 2013
Color: Red
Man, thats so disappointing but the notion that trying to make the PCX faster is a big headache and not worth makes me sad but it seems to make a lot of sense. At the end of the day I really enjoy riding my PCX but the power loss from the 2013 model is noticeable.

Im going to order 13g rollers and put it in the stock vario. Might take a month or two but will report my findings back here. In the meantime, keep the comments rolling in on previous experiments.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:35 pm 
Offline
New Member
New Member

Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:12 pm
Posts: 12
Year: 2013
Color: Red
Anyone installed this performance chip on their PCX? Thoughts?

http://www.magnumtuning.com/en/detail/e ... nda/pcx150


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:28 pm 
Offline
Prestige
Prestige
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:49 pm
Posts: 5704
Location: Chicagoland
Year: 2015 PCX150
Color: Pearl White
CaliCal wrote:
Anyone installed this performance chip on their PCX? Thoughts?

http://www.magnumtuning.com/en/detail/e ... nda/pcx150
Who are these people o_O this is some of the most elaboratly customized detailed sales presentation I have ever seen on the net. Play with their product selection for ANY vehicle and watch the show OMG!
http://www.magnumtuning.com/en/subcateg ... e-upgrades
Listen to how just one pitch reads for a rev limiter (delete) on a Buell.

We consider the XB9R as a compact executive Motorcycle, but that name doesn't quite do the job, does it? Sleek, comfortable, and powerful, your XB9R is your baby for a reason. Designed to run forever and look good for the duration, this Motorcycle still does miss that low range hp and fuel efficiency might be deemed supreme. Improve low range hp and fuel efficiency in a short while, by installing this motorcycle rev limiter or peruse other upgrades we offer specifically for the XB9R on magnumtuning.com, and install the magnum motorcycle rev limiter that will allow your Buell Motorcycle to be exactly what you need it to be. The newer a Motorcycle is, unfortunately, the more it is restricted due to stringent emission and din control standards manufacturers have to comply with. Engine Tuning is the only solution to override factory limitations. Need better low range hp and fuel efficiency than stock Motorcycle having? Want to improve low range hp and fuel efficiency? Pick one of the magnum motorcycle rev limiters today.

Clearly these people are the 'Slick Willies' of engine tune wizardry or the biggest fraud on the net. WOW! this is GREAT! OH it's just beautiful! Read the glowing reviews for Gods sake it's everything you ever wanted to know or do to your machine in a tiny little less than 300.00 magic box. I don't know what to say other than buyer beware. I can't go first on this one TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE :roll:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:02 pm 
Offline
Regular User
Regular User
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:20 pm
Posts: 230
Location: Watsonville, CA
Year: 2013
Color: black
CaliCal wrote:
Anyone installed this performance chip on their PCX? Thoughts?

http://www.magnumtuning.com/en/detail/e ... nda/pcx150


Snake oil salesmen. Looks to me like the intake temperature sensor resistor mod that has been done on cars. It gives the computer an offset temperature reading.
Resulting in either a leaner or richer fuel mixture.

Gil

_________________
ImageImage
    2013 Honda PCX 150, NCY Variator kit, Dr Pulley 12g Roller weights
    IRC tires, LED driving lights, Besten trunk


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:36 pm 
Offline
New Member
New Member

Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:12 pm
Posts: 12
Year: 2013
Color: Red
Putting their elaborate sales pitch aside, if you send an offset temperature reading to the computer and that changes the air/fuel mixture to be richer, wont that help with performance?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:12 am 
Offline
Forum Benefactor
Forum Benefactor

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:28 pm
Posts: 151
Location: SE Pa
Year: 2018
Color: white
Quote:
Putting their elaborate sales pitch aside, if you send an offset temperature reading to the computer and that changes the air/fuel mixture to be richer, wont that help with performance?

Interesting thought. I had a 150 Stellla 2-Stroke that was setup as new to make emission standards - right on the edge of lean. When I fattened up the main jet, it got noticeable more power while still maintaining a nice plug read. I also had installed a CHT - Cylinder Head Temperature Gauge - and its reading actually showed a slight temp reduction .... until I later on installed a different air filter & exhaust but thats another topic.

Back to the subject - I like fuel economy, but if the PCX is designed right on the edge of lean, and a bit richer would increase the HP with only a slight hit on mileage, I'd want to try it out.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:45 pm 
Offline
New Member
New Member

Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:12 pm
Posts: 12
Year: 2013
Color: Red
So I have an update on performance. I went in and got the first 600 mile tune up recommended by honda where they adjust the valves. After this minor adjustment AND the fact that I removed the snorkel from the air filter, I feel a noticeable bump in acceleration. I still feel like its slower than the older PCX but not by much. Removing the snorkel helped free up the air intake and also gave it a deeper sound which helps in traffic and overall feel for the machine.

Anyone else experience something similar?


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 43 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Like what you see here? Buy the admin a beer! Donate at the link below:

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group. Color scheme by ColorizeIt!