Help me pick one, please. Bullster or TCP windshield?.

[Cascanciu]

Let's go again with the windshield thing . Hope you understand .

I've narrowed down my options to two, eventually, that's the good news. Here they are:

http://www.tcpsa.net/shop/product_info. ... cts_id=150

http://www.bullster.com/fr/catalogue-pr ... he=scooter

I think I like the Bullster better. But the TCP has an interesting feature. It has a gap for the mirrors, so you can lock the handlebar when parking. I'm not sure you can do this with the Bullster, so if you have some feedback on it from someone's who's installed one on his PCX, it's very welcome. I wonder what the quality on each of them is like, too.

Inputs welcome .

[maddiedog]

For convenience, Bullster:

bullster.jpg (28.38 KiB) Viewed 2667 times

TCP:

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The Bullster looks tapered in enough so that it shouldn't matter. The Bullster is narrower, but taller. I personally like the TCP, but it's all about preference.

I can't say anything about either brand, since I've never seen either of these before. You'll have to report back with a review of whatever one you pick.

[Taz]

It depends on your handlebar position and what mirrors you use and if you use mirror extenders. The reason my stock mirrors touched my ermax screen is because I am so tall I tilted my handlebars as far forward as possible. Thats why I have different mirrors and extenders. With handlbar in stock position you could use the stock mirrors though not sure on the Bullster as it does look wide. The otehr looks OK.

[Cascanciu]

Got an e-mail from Bullster. They have been kind enough to attach a couple of pictures of their windshield, but from a different angle. The model in the pics is the GT model, not the shorter "haute protection" (high protection) one which is the one I liked better.

Personally, I'm a bit dissapointed with the looks. It seems that the windshield is placed more vertically than other options like the Givi, TCP, etc... and I presume this will affect aerodynamics negatively.

I asked them if it was possible to lock the handlebar and they answered that the windshield would allow this, no problem.

So, what do you think?.

On the other hand, if you have a close look at the shape of the windshield, it looks like it will offer good protection.

So, what do you think?.

[you you]

Hmmmm, Bit too tall for me

[Cascanciu]

Hmmmm, Bit too tall for me

Yep, I agree. But that's the GT version, different from the "high protection" one, which is the one Maddiedog put a few posts up, and the one I'm considering. The GT is 6 cm taller than the "high protection".

[louthepoo]

That just looks strange!

[Cascanciu]

I guess you refer to the Bullster . Yep, it's way too vertical, isn't it?. Looks funny. I'm now leaning towards the TCP. 74€ and you get it home. As soon as the weather worsens I'll order it, together with a Givi top box. My PCX will look something like this, difference is, mine is black.

[Taz]

This is my Ermax +25 and it also looks upright:


DSCF6394 by TazPCX, on Flickr

but if it was angled back too much you would never get mirrors to not touch it! In my opinion you need a screen primarily to keep wind off you and secondarily for looks. Im still happy with mine and think it looks better for real, than in photos.

[you you]

Why not just get a givi screen?

[gn2]

Why get a screen at all, it'll only do 62.5mph flat out.
Hardly more than a gentle breeze compared to hanging on to a real motorbike.

[you you]

Why get a screen at all, it'll only do 62.5mph flat out.
Hardly more than a gentle breeze compared to hanging on to a real motorbike.

Well for me it's so I stay drier in the rain

62.5, your kidding? Is that GPS or speedo?

[gn2]

No, that's what a PCX 125 is restricted to.
When new a PCX 125 will indicate 67 which is 62.5 true.
Anyone tells you theirs can go significantly faster they're either freewheeling down a very big hill, lying or have changed a shitload of components at great expense.

[you you]

Mine indicates over 70 and shows a top speed on GPS of 67.5 on a ride logger

Downhill admittedly but not for a huge stretch

You'll have to decide which of your three categories I fall into. I'll not help you as I'm sure you will be sure of your opinion

[gn2]

Is yours an eSP model?

[Cascanciu]

I don't like the looks of the Givi. Besides, I've read reviews of other riders who complain about a signiicant increase in wind noise, as the airflow is, apparently, diverted towards the rider's head, and those riders where about my height (176 cm). I wear a modular helmet and it's noisy enough, hence my preference for the TCP or other, taller, options, so I can have the air diverted over my head, not just against it. This should help with rain in a humid area like the one I live in.

[you you]

Is yours an eSP model?

It is. The MPG seems significantly better too and I measure both pretty analy really.

I know that Honda did a lot of work on reducing friction - perhaps its paid of on top speed and economy. Or a slightly different variator?

[gn2]

There's always the possibility that it has a new model designation and isn't in the A1 licencing class.
The original PCX 125 is an A1 and just will not do more than 62.5 because it is both rev and speed restricted so as to fit in this class.

[you you]

There's always the possibility that it has a new model designation and isn't in the A1 licencing class.
The original PCX 125 is an A1 and just will not do more than 62.5 because it is both rev and speed restricted so as to fit in this class.

What does A1 refer to the driver or the vehicle license? Can't imagine Honda would have made the bike non learner legal

[gn2]

A1 refers to both vehicle class and licence.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Le ... /DG_178483
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg ... 197021.pdf