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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:06 am 
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Here is a cut/paste from the Wisconsin online manual for those who were wondering.

When facing a red light, you may proceed CAUTIOUSLY through the intersection when the light is still red if ALL of the following conditions are present: ƒ
You reasonably believe the signal is vehicle activated (if the signal is timed, you may not proceed through a red light no matter how long it takes to change to green); ƒ
No other vehicles are present to activate the signal; ƒ You have stopped at the signal for at least 45 seconds;
and, You yield right-of-way to vehicles proceeding through on a green signal and to pedestrians and bicycles in the crosswalk or intersection.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:02 am 
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I've had this issue several times through the years, even on my Honda CM450 cycle. The way I have handled it is to wait for "two cycles" of light changes, and the left turn arrow never turns green. Really annoying, but by sitting through two "cycles", you guaranee that yes, the intersection is vehicle-switch-activated. It's totally annoying, and usually only happens to me when it's like 1 in the morning.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:13 pm 
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Here is a very relevant article!

http://www.bikebandit.com/community/art ... ts-legally


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I found this thread quite useful. Since I'm from the Motorcycle Capitol of the World, here's an update to the synopses of Wisconsin's law via the 2017 Wisconsin Motorcyclist's Handbook, top left of Page 12:

http://wisconsindot.gov/Documents/dmv/s ... manual.pdf

When facing a red light, you may proceed CAUTIOUSLY through the intersection when the light is still red if ALL of the following conditions are present:
    • You reasonably believe the signal is vehicle activated (if the signal is timed, you may not proceed through a red light no matter how long it takes to change to green);
    • No other vehicles are present to activate the signal;
    • You have stopped at the signal for at least 45 seconds; and,
    • You yield right-of-way to vehicles proceeding through on a green signal and to pedestrians and bicycles in the crosswalk or intersection.
A driver convicted of failure to yield right-of-way (FYR) is required to attend traffic safety school.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:51 pm 
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kramnala58 wrote:
My understanding of the buttons for pedestrians is that they don't usually activate the light, they simply make sure that the walk signal stays on long enough for the average pedestrian to clear he crosswalk, contrary to popular believe that they trigger the light to change.

This is correct,they do not affect signal to change.It is only there due to public demand for pedestrian crossings concerns.They do not work.Magnets will not work either, they are initiated by ferrous materials only.Magnets only work as far as they are metallic .


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That's quite the blanket statement. I've seen some buttons that will change a light immediately if it was in the "main thoroughfare" cycle a while and nothing tripped the "secondary thoroughfare" vehicle sensor, so I know lights may respond to call buttons. I also know where government is corrupt their servants pay the most in taxes for the least in services, and New York is known for crooks elevating crooks to positions of political power, so you get what you get.

People should be able to cross the road without government intervention at taxpayer expense.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedestrian_crossing

Back on topic, in theory magnets may disrupt the current in a vehicle sense loop and trigger the light, so far I'm still trying to get that to work; the more I learn the better chance I'll have.


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magnets don't help. I have one stop light at the end of the off ramp that I encounter every night on my way home. I got a dozen, 1 inch square very powerfull neo magnets out of a wrecked wind turbine and stuck them to the chin of my lower fairing on my CBR250R, which is very close to the ground. It made no difference. So I have to wait until a car pulls up behind me. Or run it after waiting if nothing is around.

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WI_Hedgehog wrote:
That's quite the blanket statement. I've seen some buttons that will change a light immediately if it was in the "main thoroughfare" cycle a while and nothing tripped the "secondary thoroughfare" vehicle sensor, so I know lights may respond to call buttons. I also know where government is corrupt their servants pay the most in taxes for the least in services, and New York is known for crooks elevating crooks to positions of political power, so you get what you get.

People should be able to cross the road without government intervention at taxpayer expense.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedestrian_crossing

Back on topic, in theory magnets may disrupt the current in a vehicle sense loop and trigger the light, so far I'm still trying to get that to work; the more I learn the better chance I'll have.


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There is a light at the entrance to our subdivision. It does not recognize our bikes. I installed magnets on my bike that seemed to work, but they fell off. Now, if I need to go straight or to the left (the laws here allow right on red after stopping), I have to turn right, go to a left turn area that does not have a light, and I turn around. It is time consuming but it is safer than turning on a red light.

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