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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:04 pm 
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Ok I found the specs.
If no torque spec is specified these are safe specs for almost all general purpose fasteners.
Fasteners with 6mm threads
- 8 Nm or 6 ft/lbs
Fasteners with 8mm threads
- 20 Nm or 15 ft/lbs
Fasteners with 10mm threads
- 40 Nm or 29 ft/lbs


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:23 pm 
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FYI: did my first valve check at 500 miles ( out of spec both were tight)and
second valve check the other day at 1100miles still in spec from my first adjustment ;)


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 1:52 pm 
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Great how-to guide! Just followed it to do mine, 4080 miles on the clock, both clearances were 0.05mm under spec.

Lots of fiddling to get the plastic off, but took my time with a plastic tyre lever to persuade the stubborn bits ;)

Little smear of Pro Seal Black Silicone Instant Gasket and the jobs a good 'un :D

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I'm going to have the 1st and maybe most of the initial years servicing down at a dealer - but I'm looking forward to guides on how to remove the plastics on the new model (and/or a service manual comes out). Mine seems to be very efficient regarding fuel consumption, allowing for max 40mph riding so far and only having done 100 miles. I'm going by the indicated mpg of 130+ and still having 1bar+ with half tank to start with). Is fuel consumption a good indication valve adjustment is good?

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Since I wrecked the scooter and have to remove and add on all the panels anyways, I decided to do this as well. Have fuel line disconnected now just going to sit it overnight with rag over the hole so the engine can cool

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Really interesting thread, and I'm subscribing!! :D :D :D :D :D

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Hello everyone, First I want to thank you all for this valuable how to thread. It has enabled me to tackle the valve adjustment job with confidence. Here is my experience with this job. My PCX is a 2013, and I had Honda do the first service at 630miles at which time they checked the valves. My scooter now has 2600 miles on it and I did the valves but found the intake was .002 inch, which I set to .004 and the exhaust was .006 which I set to .009 inch. I am stunned that they were that far off. I checked, re checked then manually rotated the engine counterclockwise and checked again. They are bang on at .004 intake and .009 exhaust. As a side note the engine was stone cold and everything was tightened to the specified torque.
Question....Now I notice I have more of a "tick" sound from the lifters as the engine runs. Is this normal to some extent? Or am I Missing something? It is not a loud tick, just noticeable. Thank You in advance. :D

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Now I notice I have more of a "tick" sound from the lifters as the engine runs. Is this normal to some extent? Or am I Missing something? It is not a loud tick, just noticeable :D


Oh man, you are not inspiring any confidence in me to do this right either o_O I don't want to do this, I don't want Honda doing it, the bike is running great but it has to be done. I hope you don't have to go back in brother, I will be watching the replies on this one.

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MikeP wrote:
Hello everyone, First I want to thank you all for this valuable how to thread. It has enabled me to tackle the valve adjustment job with confidence. Here is my experience with this job. My PCX is a 2013, and I had Honda do the first service at 630miles at which time they checked the valves. My scooter now has 2600 miles on it and I did the valves but found the intake was .002 inch, which I set to .004 and the exhaust was .006 which I set to .009 inch. I am stunned that they were that far off. I checked, re checked then manually rotated the engine counterclockwise and checked again. They are bang on at .004 intake and .009 exhaust. As a side note the engine was stone cold and everything was tightened to the specified torque.
Question....Now I notice I have more of a "tick" sound from the lifters as the engine runs. Is this normal to some extent? Or am I Missing something? It is not a loud tick, just noticeable. Thank You in advance. :D


Maybe your just "in tune" to the valve noise now...
Are you sure you got them to torque specs? Sure you were at TDC?
If your in doubt recheck your clearances and rotate the engine a couple of times and recheck again...
better safe than sorry :cry:


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Screw you Dashreddar and your ability to check your valves with ease on a whim with your cosmetic modifications!

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Thanks dassreddar, I think you are right. I am more in tune with the noise. I know i was TDC, I know I set them to spec and proper torque. So they have to be right. I think they were so tight before that it was a drastic change. The intake was .002" and the exhaust .006" I set them to .004" and .009".
I remember when I took the bike to the dealer for a 600 mile check. I rode it there and picked it up 6 hrs later. The engine was not cold when they set the valves. I think that is why they were so far out of wack.
I think I will check the valves again just for the heck of it and confirm my understanding. Then I will report back.

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Hot or cold, shouldn't the valves remain in or out of spec, not be in one way and vastly out the other?

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They should be checked cold. The gap closes up a bit when it's hot due to expansion of the metal, so if the clearances are too tight cold then once it gets hot there might be a chance of the valves not closing properly resulting in poor compression and if left uncheck burned out valves.

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If it's ticking you either:
- Did not secure your head gasket properly, and are hearing the engine way more because sound is escaping (you'll start leaking oil a LOT too). I did this on accident once when servicing Mel46's PCX.
- Did not properly measure or tighten your valves.

Don't ride it if it's ticking. Fix it or take it to a shop if you can't figure it out.

The valve job is way, WAY over-worried about on the PCX. I worried way too much about my valves initially, and followed Honda's schedule without questioning it, and really haven't had to adjust my valves other than the first time. There's lots of people on the road that haven't even looked at their valves. Most of you will be more than fine getting it initially checked, then only getting it looked at if the bike starts ticking, has trouble starting, or seems to lack power. You won't see any of those symptoms until the valves have had 10s of thousands of miles of use, so don't worry, and just go ride. :)

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The valve job is way, WAY over-worried about on the PCX. I worried way too much about my valves initially, and followed Honda's schedule without questioning it, and really haven't had to adjust my valves other than the first time. There's lots of people on the road that haven't even looked at their valves. Most of you will be more than fine getting it initially checked, then only getting it looked at if the bike starts ticking, has trouble starting, or seems to lack power. You won't see any of those symptoms until the valves have had 10s of thousands of miles of use, so don't worry, and just go ride. :)


Agreed... mine was educational and fun for me but if you're not wanting to know more about the mechanics of the PCX it could be a colossal waste of time.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... oyVAcpcIwl

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This thread is great info! .


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There is a pattern here;
Valves first checked at 600 miles are usually reported at too tight.
Valves first checked at thousands of miles are usually in spec.

Makes me wonder if Honda planned the factory gap as tight knowing it would loosen....


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Well I have since checked my valve lash since my last post and I found that it was exactly to spec as per the manual. I believe Maddiedog and many of the others on this forum are correct in saying that we over worry about this. My concerns about "ticking" was simply the result of a hightened awarness of the sound. Hence I pulled her a part to check again. In summary I am "in tune" with the sound of my machine and if something were not right, I would sence it. At this point I am at 8000km and she runs like a Rolls Royce. :D

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Next to a silly rev limiter video on my youtube channel the Honda PCX valve clearance tutorial continues to draw the best viewership. Much to my surprise many around the world do worry about those clearances wanting to know more according to time spent watching analysis. Unless people just want to watch boring video and not actually do the job this video is serving it's purpose for 2015 PCX



I look forward to taking the PCX down again some day but for this years upcoming riding season... we are good to go :)

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Bravo homie! Excellent tuitorial video. Did you miss anything? I doubt it! ;)
Yeah, you took all that apart only to find your valves within spec. One of those weird moments when you're taken back :roll: You're happy it's all good, you grin, shake your head 'n say, what the heck! Really? Cool!
You're a Patient Man. You can work on WN anytime! :D Thanks for sharing!
(Bookmarking. I may try this one day. But then again, why should I? Yours were fine. Our White scoots were bought around the same time 'n all. Bet mine r good :?
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