Riding with a passenger

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Hi everyone,
I have just joined this forum and this is my first post. I am expecting the delivery of my new Forza 125 in a month’s time :P . Most of the time I will ride it alone but occasionally I plan to take my wife along. We weigh some 85 kg each.
What is your experience riding with the passenger? Is there enough power for a comfortable ride? How about uphill? Would you recommend a backrest? Any other comment and suggestions are most welcome.
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Congrats on the new scoot-to-be. I'm diggin' your avatar! 8) What 4 wheeler is that? Beats Mine :lol:
Sorry I'm not riding a 125 Forza. Do stick around, someone that does will be along shortly
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WhiteNoise wrote:Congrats on the new scoot-to-be. I'm diggin' your avatar! 8) What 4 wheeler is that? Beats Mine :lol:
Sorry I'm not riding a 125 Forza. Do stick around, someone that does will be along shortly
That's a Citroën, 2CV. French. (Google it....a great automobile...esp. if you have simple tastes)
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Oh....ya know what? It Reminds me of a VW bug but with a stretched nose. Yah, I have Simple taste so can I have one Please?
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What year is this cool lookin' Citroen painted bumble bee (with or without stripes) bug?
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I'm not on a Forza am on a pcx 125.Riding 2 up is a blast go for it. Back rests I'd recommend a back box instead when you go anywhere you have a place for both lids. Uphill you won't have to get off and push. The 2CV on the other hand you probably would end up pushing. I seem to remember people saying the CV stood for crap valves : )
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WhiteNoise wrote:Oh....ya know what? It Reminds me of a VW bug but with a stretched nose. Yah, I have Simple taste so can I have one Please?
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What year is this cool lookin' Citroen painted bumble bee (with or without stripes) bug?

They are pretty cool. Two cylinder air cooled engine in the front. Seats come out to use for picnics.

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Slowinitdown wrote:Welcome to the forum
I'm not on a Forza am on a pcx 125.Riding 2 up is a blast go for it. Back rests I'd recommend a back box instead when you go anywhere you have a place for both lids. Uphill you won't have to get off and push. The 2CV on the other hand you probably would end up pushing. I seem to remember people saying the CV stood for crap valves : )

Deux chevaux vapeur. Two HP under tax laws similar to our old hp ratings in the U.K.

Apologies to the French for any spelling or inaccuracies, and also for the British Daily Mail mentality. It'll live longer than any 2CV.

They did rust though.. :lol:
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you you wrote:
Slowinitdown wrote:Welcome to the forum
I'm not on a Forza am on a pcx 125.Riding 2 up is a blast go for it. Back rests I'd recommend a back box instead when you go anywhere you have a place for both lids. Uphill you won't have to get off and push. The 2CV on the other hand you probably would end up pushing. I seem to remember people saying the CV stood for crap valves : )

Deux chevaux vapeur. Two HP under tax laws similar to our old hp ratings in the U.K.

Apologies to the French for any spelling or inaccuracies, and also for the British Daily Mail mentality. It'll live longer than any 2CV.

They did rust though.. :lol:
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Deux chevaux was my first car and I absolutely loved it. Mine was produced in '74. You could completely disassemble it with a key 11 mm and a screw driver. Fantastic for the youngsters and young families. One could do all the maintenance on the road, never needed tow service. I've heard that some guy in Provence, France has a R-a-C fleet of Deux chevaux, Just put your top down and enjoy the ride...
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Slowinitdown wrote:Welcome to the forum
I'm not on a Forza am on a pcx 125.Riding 2 up is a blast go for it. Back rests I'd recommend a back box instead when you go anywhere you have a place for both lids. Uphill you won't have to get off and push. The 2CV on the other hand you probably would end up pushing. : )
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WhiteNoise wrote:Congrats on the new scoot-to-be. I'm diggin' your avatar! 8) What 4 wheeler is that? Beats Mine :lol:
Thanks a lot!
The avatar is Citroën 2CV 6, my first car. In Croatia we nick-named it "Spacek" - The Ugly Duckling. It was lots of fun.
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I had a blue 2CV6, it was called Daisy.
Absolutely loved it and would have another if I could find a decent one at a reasonable price.
They tend to go for silly money now.
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Spaguar wrote:
WhiteNoise wrote:Congrats on the new scoot-to-be. I'm diggin' your avatar! 8) What 4 wheeler is that? Beats Mine :lol:
Thanks a lot!
The avatar is Citroën 2CV 6, my first car. In Croatia we nick-named it "Spacek" - The Ugly Duckling. It was lots of fun.

After Cissy?
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The avatar is Citroën 2CV 6, my first car. In Croatia we nick-named it "Spacek" - The Ugly Duckling. It was lots of fun.[/quote]


After Cissy?[/quote]

No, After "Pače" (Duckling)
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In Paris they sold 2CV parts in the Metro.
I thumbed rides a lot and frequently was picked up by owners of these. Crazy comfy seats, LOUD engine and gear noises, cornering was like a carnival ride, gear change came straight out of the dash if I recall correctly.....and they were always driven at 10/10ths, or more -- if a down grade made that possible. Uses only 3 lug nuts to save $ - and proto model only had one headlight.
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And some had this cool safety feature.

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OK, I'm done. I love these things.

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There was a 2CV specialist close to where we lived in Birmingham. He took one, took the body off, rotated it 180 degrees and bolted it back on. It was quite a head turner to see it passing you, apparently backwards. The bloke said it went faster the wrong way round.
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Spaguar wrote:Hi everyone,
I have just joined this forum and this is my first post. I am expecting the delivery of my new Forza 125 in a month’s time :P . Most of the time I will ride it alone but occasionally I plan to take my wife along. We weigh some 85 kg each.
What is your experience riding with the passenger? Is there enough power for a comfortable ride? How about uphill? Would you recommend a backrest? Any other comment and suggestions are most welcome.
I've ridden two-up frequently on my old Chinese 125 that was at least 6 bhp down on the Forza 125.

You learn quickly, as the rider, to preserve momentum. I drove my Foster Mum's old Citroen Dyane a bit so I now that you should be familiar with that concept in the 2CV.

Something for the pillion to lean back against is a good confidence booster for them. Not essential but definitely a nice-to-have.

Ultimately it's perfectly safe. Don't cultivate to much desire to overtake, and don't be in too much o a hurry and you will be just fine.

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lillypinkjenny wrote: I've ridden two-up frequently on my old Chinese 125 that was at least 6 bhp down on the Forza 125.

You learn quickly, as the rider, to preserve momentum. I drove my Foster Mum's old Citroen Dyane a bit so I now that you should be familiar with that concept in the 2CV.

Something for the pillion to lean back against is a good confidence booster for them. Not essential but definitely a nice-to-have.

Ultimately it's perfectly safe. Don't cultivate to much desire to overtake, and don't be in too much o a hurry and you will be just fine.

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Good advice and good comparison with the 2CV.
Actually, 2CV had a huge and heavy flywheel which enabled it to carry the momentum.

I am way past my speeding days. Nowadays I prefer a comfortable ride over speed.

As for the backrest, I have ordered a topbox to be delivered with my Forza.

I am all set and now I just have to wait for the delivery, which is getting harder by the day.
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I knew someone once who owned one of those strange French cars. It would not pass safety requirements these days, but back in the day it was a 'starter car' for those who couldn't afford a real car. I couldn't count the number of times it broke down. We put it in the same category as the little Renault, which leaked oil so bad that you carried a drip pan and an extra quart of oil. Those were the days. :-/
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Spaguar wrote:
lillypinkjenny wrote: I've ridden two-up frequently on my old Chinese 125 that was at least 6 bhp down on the Forza 125.

You learn quickly, as the rider, to preserve momentum. I drove my Foster Mum's old Citroen Dyane a bit so I now that you should be familiar with that concept in the 2CV.

Something for the pillion to lean back against is a good confidence booster for them. Not essential but definitely a nice-to-have.

Ultimately it's perfectly safe. Don't cultivate to much desire to overtake, and don't be in too much o a hurry and you will be just fine.

:)
Good advice and good comparison with the 2CV.
Actually, 2CV had a huge and heavy flywheel which enabled it to carry the momentum.

I am way past my speeding days. Nowadays I prefer a comfortable ride over speed.

As for the backrest, I have ordered a topbox to be delivered with my Forza.

I am all set and now I just have to wait for the delivery, which is getting harder by the day.
Yeah the anticipation of waiting for a new vehicle is immense! I'm quite envious, actually.

The whole Dyane driving experience was something I hadn't planned on at all. My Foster Mum had the car for as long as I'd known her. It never broke down ever and she drove it every day.

By happy(?) coincidence she had a knee operation while I was learning to drive, paying for my lessons by working late evening shifts in a supermarket.

While she had one leg completely encased in plaster for several months she decided that it would be good practice for me to drive her Dyane while she was my qualified supervisor. For a 17 year old who had only ever ridden bicycles until a few weeks previously, the Dyane was like driving an alien vehicle even compared to the Ford Fiesta my Driving Instructor was teaching me in. "Mum," also taught me some tricks I didn't learn officially, like maintaining momentum, and the fact that mud was of little problem to the Dyane and its skinny tyres.

Even so, I coped right up until the day of my test. I sat in the Fiesta and listened to the Examiner's initial instructions, then went to check that the car was in neutral before I started it.

In my nervous state I moved my hand quickly to where the Dyane's umbrella handle gearshift was instead of the Fiesta's and loudly punched the dashboard! Oooops!!!!

I still passed. I think my test day outfit of a low, tight top and short shorts may have swung the pendulum in my favour, but perhaps I was just a good driver anyway. :lol:
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