Motorcycle.com article about 2019 PCX

[montliz44]

In today's Motorcycle.com :

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/ ... unced.html

Johnny

[gn2]

"The 2019 Honda PCX150 arrives in showrooms in July in a Bright Bronze Metallic color."

Translation: it'll be brown.

[PCX150Rider]

Not sure I'm a fan of the smaller glove box or thinner wheels with bigger tires. Don't want to skimp on wheel strength when it comes to pot holes. But I guess the engineers have it all figured out.

Nothing said about the proverbial "seat". After all that has been said about the "seat" they still don't seem to find that worth changing.

Other than that it sounds OK.

[homie]

The new PCX150 uses a steel duplex cradle frame instead of the “underbone” tubular steel frame of the previous version. According to Honda, the new frame improves stability. The front fork remains a 31mm telescopic unit, while the twin rear shocks receive tri-rate springs, are now situated further back and have 3.33 inches of travel (compared to 3.1 inches on the 2018 model).

New eight-spoke wheels are thinner and lighter than the previous five-spoke wheels, further helping to reduce the PCX’s overall curb weight to a claimed 289 pounds from 295 pounds. The new wheels also come with new, larger rubber – a 100/80-14 front tire and a 120/70-14 rear (compared to the 2018 model’s 90/90-14 and 100/90-14). The braking is comprised of a 220mm single front disc and 130mm rear drum, with ABS optional.

good find Johnny

It's all good except that color I was ready to trade in but turd brown is a deal breaker... booooooooooo
The streets are full up with earth tone vehicles that make me puke!

Honda must think we WANT to blend in

[springer1]

I wonder if the body / chassis changes make getting to the head for valve adjustment easier.

[matt06sg]

I just upgraded from my 2011 PCX to 2018 here in Thailand. Obviously it's a big change, engine pretty smooth though.

[tomtomclub2005]

So the indonesia model is gradually making it outside Asia.
Have not seen power mentioned in the article it's 14,48 HP at 8.500 rpm and 13,2 N.m at 6.500 rpm for the indonesian one.

[tomtomclub2005]

Italians says new 125 PCX with ABS will arrive in May: https://www.insella.it/news/nuovo-pcx-1 ... 018-144776.
12,2 CV (9 kW) at 8.500 and 11,8 Nm at 5.000 . Unknown price.
Bigger body throttle (26mm = +2mm and 1 liter bigger airbox)- different transmission as well.

[Oyabun]

Yup, it seems that ABS is standard on the Italian (European) model, and the CBS is gone - only 2 pot calipers at the front.

[Mel46]

First of all I noticed that the new engine is 4cc smaller than previously. Next, I noticed that they did not mention being able to store the helmet under the seat, but rather they mention a helmet hook. Lastly, I noticed that the tire sizes have changed:
"The new wheels also come with new, larger rubber – a 100/80-14 front tire and a 120/70-14 rear (compared to the 2018 model’s 90/90-14 and 100/90-14). "

I guess that means that it would not hurt my 2013 model if I put a 100/80-14 tire on as my front tire.

Last note: $4,000 for the ABS version?? There are a lot of choices out there for that kind of money.

[Jge64]

Just rather odd to me that they didn't go ahead and put a disk on the rear. It seems to be a selling point for other brands.

[Scotty1981]

First of all I noticed that the new engine is 4cc smaller than previously. Next, I noticed that they did not mention being able to store the helmet under the seat, but rather they mention a helmet hook. Lastly, I noticed that the tire sizes have changed:
"The new wheels also come with new, larger rubber – a 100/80-14 front tire and a 120/70-14 rear (compared to the 2018 model’s 90/90-14 and 100/90-14). "

I guess that means that it would not hurt my 2013 model if I put a 100/80-14 tire on as my front tire.

Last note: $4,000 for the ABS version?? There are a lot of choices out there for that kind of money.

Definitely too much money, I'd rather spend the extra $1500 and just get an Xmax or Forza instead.

[tomtomclub2005]

Just rather odd to me that they didn't go ahead and put a disk on the rear. It seems to be a selling point for other brands.

What?? You seem to be right from the pics in the Italian article i posted earlier. Indonesian one has disc brakes all round:
see 2:40.
this is completely crazy!

[Greenmeenie]

No electric or hybrid pcx? Boo! Not even a rear disc break? Double Boo! Optional abs? Good, but for an extra $400? Boo! Only comes in metallic bronze? No white? Booooooooo! Lol.

[tomtomclub2005]

I think it is time to all PCX Forums US and EU to write angry letters to Honda saying we will not settle for less than the "Indonesia" version with discs all round. I'm really pissed, and for the prices no way i would consider exchanging my current led version.

[springer1]

I don't have any issue with a rear drum brake. A disk is beneficial in front where most of the braking occurs, but in 50 years of riding I've never experienced a drum brake performance issue in the rear. But that's just me.

[gn2]

Rear drum is superior in so many ways to a disc.
Much easier maintenance and immune to sticky caliper syndrome.

[lillypinkjenny]

Rear drum is superior in so many ways to a disc.
Much easier maintenance and immune to sticky caliper syndrome.

I prefer a rear drum too.

I like the colour but it's too much like the shade of wet roads!

[tomtomclub2005]

"Much easier maintenance and immune to sticky caliper syndrome."

Having done maintenance of rear brake shoes at 19.000 Km because of incredible bad squealing i found and removed at least two table spoons of brake dust that was flying around in the drum and contaminating the shoes. I could have just sanded them after as there was still quite some margin but i was so disgusted i upgraded to Kitaco shoes which i had as spares. Much improved- i can feel and hear the shoes biting as never before. As for ease of maintenance well drum brakes you have to:

>Remove exhaust> remove swingarm> remove wheel> Clean> change pads> adjust lever cable and then remount in reverse order. So much for easy, I can't see your point. Disc brake would involve removing pads, clean disk, clean caliper, remount and every second year change fluid. No more messing with exhaust, swingarm and wheel removal etc.

Sticky caliper: I've seen a lot of stories about this on the Forza, it looks to be a specific issue. A quick search to find if Nmax had this issue did not turn anything significant so it looks like you are suggesting we should stick to drums because Honda is not up to the task maybe?

Anyway disc all round was wishful thinking up to now. But now that the model exists and is in production, It is simply unbelievable that a single country gets it. PCX had always been a global model- but now they have a new strategy, if a country is under heavy competition they will go to the trouble to have separate version and that is is actually more appealing, at least to me.
I'm pretty p***d if we don't get at least the choice as the choice exists now

[tomtomclub2005]

Hmmm. Maybe you have to remove exhaust after all. Not sure judging by this capture

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