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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:25 pm 
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Hello there Trevor, welcome to our forum(s)! :) Glad you registered and that you're getting great feedback from members to your questions.
My only input at this time, is to ask you to enter your location to your profile. Yes, you did mention Arizona but I'm betting that most of us will never remember that down the road. It's an easy task to complete. Just follow my directions below my post.
I thank you and hope you Enjoy time spent here. Be safe always and choose "your" ride wisely ;) WN

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:28 am 
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WhiteNoise wrote:
Hello there Trevor, welcome to our forum(s)! :) Glad you registered and that you're getting great feedback from members to your questions.
My only input at this time, is to ask you to enter your location to your profile. Yes, you did mention Arizona but I'm betting that most of us will never remember that down the road. It's an easy task to complete. Just follow my easy directions below my post.
I thank you and hope you Enjoy time spent here. Be safe always and choose "your" ride wisely ;) WN


DONE!

Thanks! I see you're from Long Island, ha ha ha I grew up there in Nassau County (Valley Stream), honestly I don't miss the restrictive state of New York. Much more freedom in Arizona, especially if you are a sportsman like me (shooting/guns).

I sure don't miss shoveling snow!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:24 am 
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Trevor wrote:
I found the solution!!!!!!! I didn't know Honda even made these! I don't want to shift, I just want to cruise etc, I'm sure this will get me over 55mph if needed, 670cc engine. It's only a couble grand $ more than the PCX 150.

http://www.northvalleyhonda.com/default ... wInventory

http://www.northvalleyhonda.com/default ... wInventory



Could be a better long term alternative. Nice bikes.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:21 am 
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Have the dealer show you how the CTX700 works. I think there's two versions. . .one with the manual. . .and one with the automatic or manual allowing the rider to choose. The one with the automatic may be a bit more $$$ but if you generally like the machine it's worth it. When I bought my PCX I looked at one of these in the showroom. It may be like a "Swiss Army" knife among motorcycles. I guess the folks who made this video thought the same. If I didn't already have my KLR 650 or Suzuki Bandit GSF1200S or the PCX (not to mention my 49cc Genuine Roughhouse "Bad Weather Transport Machine") I'd seriously consider one. Just my two cents worth. . .. 8)



Take your time and think about it. . .measure twice. . .spend once. :lol:

BTW they are calling the area I live in on the CT shore the new "Hamptons" as it is easier to get to and a lot less expensive than Long Island. Seen a lot more NY license plates around here this summer. My once quiet town is starting to get quite busy. . .cue the golf carts. :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:30 am 
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Trevor, Steph and her husband John both members and owners of PCX bought the CTX and could answer all your questions. Thiers do have the option of manual and automatic trans with the push of a button. They now spend all their time riding the unique CTX Honda's. Here's her channel so you can talk to her... ENJOY! Plus she also is a BIG NRA supporter :)

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NC750 DCT might be another consideration if you're thinking of going to a much bigger/expensive bike - it's unique in that it has the equivalent of "underseat storage" where the fuel tank would normally be. Has automatic gearbox.



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Test drove a CTX700 DCT today. It was much faster than the PCX 150, but honestly I don't think it's worth the extra $2500 plus increased monthly insurance cost of $48 per month. I'm going to test drive the PCX 150 again, probably this Tuesday, I'll let you guys know what I get.

It's funny because under 50mph the small scooter can get out of the way faster than the motorcycle. It's slower, yet it can dive right or left to avoid objects MUCH faster. Maybe it's because of my beginner skills, I don't know.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:07 am 
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Trevor wrote:
It's funny because under 50mph the small scooter can get out of the way faster than the motorcycle. It's slower, yet it can dive right or left to avoid objects MUCH faster. Maybe it's because of my beginner skills, I don't know.


They can. Until you master counter-steering the maneuverability of the bike comes down to the ratio of rider weight to bike weight. For a constant rider weight, the lighter the bike the more we can throw it around with our body weight - and the PCX is very light when compared to a motorbike.

Keep in mind too that everything on a motorbike will cost you more - from fuel to tyres to insurance to servicing. If you need it you need it, but it always comes at a price.


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Trevor wrote:
It's funny because under 50mph the small scooter can get out of the way faster than the motorcycle. It's slower, yet it can dive right or left to avoid objects MUCH faster. Maybe it's because of my beginner skills, I don't know.


They can. Until you master counter-steering the maneuverability of the bike comes down to the ratio of rider weight to bike weight. For a constant rider weight, the lighter the bike the more we can throw it around with our body weight - and the PCX is very light when compared to a motorbike.

Keep in mind too that everything on a motorbike will cost you more - from fuel to tyres to insurance to servicing. If you need it you need it, but it always comes at a price.


Thank You! I'm gonna test drive the PCX150 again this Tuesday. The dealer near me is closed tomorrow, weird. It's so much cheaper per year to insure also. I just don't see myself going on the highway, I'll be paying more $$$ just for a 670cc faster motorcycle and 90% of the time I won't use that extra power.

I'm sorry if this has been one nose dive of a thread on this forum, just learning etc. Thanks for the input and advice.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:22 am 
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Trevor wrote:
Thank You! I'm gonna test drive the PCX150 again this Tuesday. The dealer near me is closed tomorrow, weird. It's so much cheaper per year to insure also. I just don't see myself going on the highway, I'll be paying more $$$ just for a 670cc faster motorcycle and 90% of the time I won't use that extra power.

I'm sorry if this has been one nose dive of a thread on this forum, just learning etc. Thanks for the input and advice.


No worries Trevor.

It's a judgement call for sure - all I can say is my all-up weight is often the same as yours and sometimes considerably more; I'm not that much lighter than you and I'm forever strapping 60+ pound loads or placing 200 pound daughters on the back - and I'd buy the PCX again in a heartbeat for what I use it for. If you were needing to be wide-open-throttle all the time then I'd agree that it's not the bike for you, but sounds to me like you'd use it pretty much the same way I do - mostly town and intermediate speeds, and only a modest percent WOT.

I just encourage people to think of it as a solid + reliable + low-cost work-horse that adapts itself well a wide range of situations; in a few of those situations you need to be just a little bit patient (but generally not a lot). The other day I got to thinking that at times I feel like I'm spending more time talking about the bike than riding it - so I took a mental health day and rode up to the lake - then across to another city to visit my daughter - then back home; 315km that day - most of it in the 80 to 100km/hr bracket. Passed 7 other vehicles and got passed by 4 (not counting 3 I let by because their lights were annoying me) - in other words it keeps up with general traffic flows just fine. Next day neither the bike nor me are any the worse for wear and I'm quite sure we'd both enjoy doing the trip all over again. All in a day's work for the bike - and 33,000km so far. Suspect it's just about broken in now!

Don't get too put off by talk of "weights" - the bike is rated to 180kg and in my considerable experience on it in those weight ranges it's fine up to and even beyond that point; in terms of handling it's all about balance. Higher weights only have a small effect on top speed due to slightly increased rolling resistance and profile drag ... it just takes a bit longer to accelerate TO that speed. In city traffic you'll pull away from cars most of the time - at higher speeds cars will get there faster (it's not a Fireblade!). You may be better keeping your back tyre at 36 psi instead of the single-rider 33 psi to decrease rolling resistance and better cope with the slightly higher than average load. That in turn will have a small effect on tyre life, but nothing particularly significant.

Feel free to drop me a PM if there's anything you'd like to discuss about the bike - can flick you my eMail addy as well if you like.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:08 pm 
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Do you notice that as your speed increases the steering tightens up? At 20mph I can turn the handlebars easily all the way left to right. At 40mph very tight can barely turn the handlebars. Is that what you experience?


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Do you notice that as your speed increases the steering tightens up? At 20mph I can turn the handlebars easily all the way left to right. At 40mph very tight can barely turn the handlebars. Is that what you experience?


Once any bike gets above a very minimal speed gyroscopics come into play at which point you're using counter-steering to induce gyroscopic precession to steer the bike (by changing the lean angle) ... and it's virtually impossible to turn the steering (if you could turn it suddenly at speed you'd be violently thrown off the bike).

You generally only make large steering inputs at VERY low speed - it's used to balance the bike with big weight displacements to make minimum radius turns. If you can turn full lock at 20 MPH then I think you'd need a lean angle approaching that of a MotoGP bike.


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Without throwing a monkey wrench into this mix just know the after you get use to the PCX 150 start reading the performance part of this forum. It will impress you. As an example, you can change the weights that are in the variator to 13 grams and your low range acceleration with improve quite a bit. If you change your variator you can add to your top end by 10 mph. You get the picture. Meanwhile, just buy the PCX and learn to enjoy it. If you don't need to go 80 mph the PCX will be fine...and 100 mpg is always great. :-)

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