Carrying lugage on rear seat

[Taz]

Today I wanted to strap my mains electric drill/bits in its big plastic carry case to the back seat and failed. Tried rope and bungy cords but nothing to hook onto. I reckon I could buy one of those ratchet tie downs and slip the tie down webbing under the seat and around the item to carry.

Has anyone else worked out how to strap down items to the rear seat without having to buy a rack? I ended up emptying contents of drill case into helmet area under seat and carrying it that way.

[gn2]

You can hook onto the coils of the suspension, the undersides of the popped out pillion pegs, the rim of the seat and underneath the grabrail.
You can pass a bungee under the front of the seat hump, around the back of the grabrail or around the suspension.

[Teamtd11]

I was able to carry a boxed helmet for about 40 miles using some points near the passenger foot rests for the front bungee. For the rear one I think I attached it near to where the bodywork comes out for the rear indicators.

[rich666]

you could do as gn suggested. you could also try these http://www.amazon.com/UT-Wire-Reusable- ... B003P9W0RE

Poundland seem to be getting them sporadically at the minute, you get two (1 metre) ties for £1 that's what I call a baragin

[duive01]

Without making or buying something it is not easy. I think the handles for passengers to hold onto are nicely designed for looks but not useable at all for strapping luggage. On other bikes I always used these handles to tie my stuff (roll bags) to the bike.
I see not much other possibilities than you already mentioned. But a Givi rack doesn't have to be expensive, does it? Certainly if you carry stuff regularly it is worth the costs?

Sorry, not very helpfull, I know

[maddiedog]

Recently, the only way I carry anything on the rear seat is by attaching it to cargo on my rear rack...

Kinda like this:

I have put another backpack on top of that backpack, or put a bigger backpack there so that it is fully resting on the seat.

Before I had the rear rack, I would open the seat, put the midsection of flat bungee straps there, then close the seat and secure the cargo with the two remaining halves of the bungee cord. Does that sentence make any sense, or do I need to get a picture of what I'm talking about?

[duive01]

@maddiedog
Is that a rack that is for sale somewhere of self made? Looks very usefull.

[maddiedog]

I bought one, it didn't fit, so I modified it and the rear wing until it fit. Here's the post of me installing it: http://hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20#p29 I haven't seen a good aftermarket rack for the PCX yet. Mine's really useful though. Even though it was a total hassle to install, it was worth the effort.

If you want one, here is where I got mine: http://maithai-motorbikes.com/. They accidentally sent me the wrong one, so they told me to keep the wrong one for free, then sent me the right one. The part number on their site for the one I ordered was MM63, and the total cost was $166 USD.

[duive01]

Thanks maddiedog.
I'm not much of a handyman so paying 166$ for something I have to redesign is not something for me. But it's nice to see how you managed to make it work for you and it looks extremely useful. Thanks for your info

[haildamage]

i need to get a case of 500ml water bottles home from costco this friday. i am hoping i will be able to stap it to the passenger seat by going under the seat and then latching it. will report back on how it works! otherwise i guess i'd have to use my ortlieb panniers.

[haildamage]

well i think it would be a bad idea to try carrying this without a rack. sorry, i know this thread started as "how to without a rack", but i gotta saw. you need to get a rack as soon as you buy this bike if you really wanna be utilitarian!

so here we have a bad pic of 24 500ml plastic bottles strapped onto the rear seat. i used a long static strap in a figure 8 - under the seat, around the back underside of the givi rack with topox, and over the case in an X.






the case fit nicely between the hump and the back of the topbox. however, it did not stick out far enough that i could easily touch it with my back.

sorry for the bad pics. i was in a hurry to get outta costco before the friday evening zombies over ran the place!

[gn2]

FECKING WATER!

[maddiedog]

Looks like that worked well... Was it completely stable on there?

[haildamage]

Yep, this week fizzy water. Next week cola!

Yes, completely stable and secure. I think you shouldn't use bungees alone for heavy loads like this. You should use both static and bungees if possible or static only if thats all you have.

[Taz]

They can fit on a family of 4 onto PCX in Thailand or Vietnam. So a few bottles should be easy! I ended up buying a cheap $70 rack whilst in Singapore and am carrying it in my suitcase round UK at moment. here is the shop in Singapore:


IMG_0054 by TazPCX, on Flickr

[duive01]

Quote "I ended up buying a cheap $70 rack whilst in Singapore"

Unfortunately I never go there. They have a lot more stuff available for their bikes but ofcourse it's no wonder, most bikes over there are the only way of transport so it's necessarily they can take a lot with them.
I really like accessories like racks but found out that with a topcase and two rollbags (and perhaps saddlebags/sidebags) you can hold enough stuff to go on a trip for a few weeks, camping/cooking and all!

[gn2]

Scooter recovery Indian style:

[maddiedog]

That's insane, how does he not flip straight off the back!?

haildamage - what do you mean by "static" straps? I've never had a problem with my bungees, and I've bungeed all kinds of things to my rack.

[haildamage]

this weeks costco run:



by static i mean that it doesnt stretch. like the difference between a climbing rope that stretches to absorb a fall and a rapelling rope which doesnt stretch and is thus a "static line".　

bungees work very well and you might never have a problem. however, it is possible that they will stretch when you go over a bump, etc and your load could shift and become dangerous or fall off. of course it also has to do with the quality and properties of the bungee cords how well they work!

for lighter loads a bungee is fine. for heavy loads, i think you should use both for double protection. unfortunately i havent figured out where to connect the hooks on my 4 hook bungee buddy yet, so i have just used the strap alone.

[duive01]

Scooter recovery Indian style:

I love these pictures! Ofcourse this is quite extreme but it reminds me of how spoiled we are, if we have to get a few groceries we take the car because it doesn't fit on our bike (we think!).