Belt and roller change

Jge64 · Post by **Jge64** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:18 pm

This is a very good thread. I have read the other how to's on the sliding weights & the variators and other things, and my situation is a bit different, I want better acceleration and will sacrifice the top end, so I assume 13 Gm slider (per Mel) will work well?

Mel?

Thanks!

PCX 125 CANDY RED · Post by **PCX 125 CANDY RED** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:33 pm

Dear best-buyer,

Hi I have checked the parts catalog for pcx 125 from 2009 to 2014.
Also pcx 150 from 2012 to 2014 and they are the same part number/model number and batch number.. 19 grams per weight 20mm x 15mm . 22123-KWN-900
The pcx range share a lot of the same components,some components have been revised but will still fit early models.
I use a pcx 150 2012 model but use the 2015 weights ...22123-K36-TOO the same part number different model number and batch number because they are 15 grams each . The first number is the part number- the second reference to model-then batch.
Parts are revised all the time the first numbers are unique to a particular part.
There are a lot of models that share the same parts,its like lots of different bikes share the same tire's and there can be many different brands to fit the same bike.
I always try to cross reference as much as possible.
Than you
Mike

PCX 125 CANDY RED · Post by **PCX 125 CANDY RED** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:46 pm

The stock roller weight for the Honda PCX is 15g.

Is it TRUE ?

sendler2112 · Post by **sendler2112** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:49 pm

My 2013 USA PCX150 had 18 gm weights and I changed to 12 gm DrPulley sliders which made the pulling rpm ideal at 8,000 with the original variator and 7,900 rpm when I replaced the variator and belt with Honda parts. The power peak is around 8,300 rpm so even these 12 gm weights are not too light.

Mel46 · Post by **Mel46** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:53 pm

I have 13gm rollers on my 2013 pcx 150. Top end is either about the same or a little bit less. However, acceleration really increased, enough so that I no longer worry about catching up with my wife's pcx when she takes off from a light, or we start climbing a hill. Even if my top end drops to 55 mph on a hill, as does my wife's, I can kick butt getting up to that 55 mph.

PCX 125 CANDY RED · Post by **PCX 125 CANDY RED** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:26 am

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCC*************

Thats REALLY killing me ! So many parts numbers for the Honda belts ! No explanations ! No dimensions ! No length !

Thats really sucks !

23100-KZY-701 I see this one from PCX 150 probably this one is longer ?
23100KWN711 i see this on my PCX 125 ESP 2013
23100KZR601 I know this will fit PCX 125 ESP 2013
23100KWN901 I see this on my Non EsP 2011

All of them are belts

ALSO Blubayou sad

Blubayou wrote:Interesting thread.

They are identical in dimensions he is ABOUT 23100KWN901 I see this on my Non EsP 2011 and this 23100KZR601 I know this will fit PCX 125 ESP 2013

I changed my drive belt today, using a Honda 23100-KWN-901.

Is this the correct belt for the 2013 UK spec 125?

The new and old belts are shown in the picture below.

They are identical in dimensions but carry different part numbers.

PCX 125 CANDY RED · Post by **PCX 125 CANDY RED** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:30 am

Blubayou wrote:Interesting thread.

I changed my drive belt today, using a Honda 23100-KWN-901.

Is this the correct belt for the 2013 UK spec 125?

The new and old belts are shown in the picture below.

They are identical in dimensions but carry different part numbers.

PLEASE dude reply ASAP !

How does 23100-KWN-901 belt works compared to 23100-KZR-601 ????
What rollers did you use ?
Thanks! Don't ignore please !

PCX 125 CANDY RED · Post by **PCX 125 CANDY RED** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:40 am

Mel46 wrote:I have 13gm rollers on my 2013 pcx 150. Top end is either about the same or a little bit less. However, acceleration really increased, enough so that I no longer worry about catching up with my wife's pcx when she takes off from a light, or we start climbing a hill. Even if my top end drops to 55 mph on a hill, as does my wife's, I can kick butt getting up to that 55 mph.

What BREND did you install fro the 13 Gramm weights/rollers? Thanks though

Mel46 · Post by **Mel46** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:50 am

I bought NCY rollers. I hope to buy and install the NCY variator and drive face also. But first I have to install the 13gm rollers in my wife's pcx as well. Both are 2013 pcx 150's.

Jge64 · Post by **Jge64** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:11 pm

Per mel's experience, ill be mounting the 13 gm Dr Pulley sliders this coming tues, will report back with results.

Blubayou · Post by **Blubayou** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:44 pm

Hi Candy Red,

The replacement belt has made no difference to performance whatsoever.

It is exactly the same as when fitted with the original 9000 mile old belt, so Honda's guidance of 15'000 mile changes seems fair.

My rollers however are original (17g) and are quite heavily flat spotted.

I have been playing with roller weights recently to no avail, I will report back later.

I would suggest Mr Honda knows how to set his bikes up for a good mixture of performance with economy.......

PCX 125 CANDY RED · Post by **PCX 125 CANDY RED** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:08 pm

Mel46 wrote:I bought NCY rollers. I hope to buy and install the NCY variator and drive face also. But first I have to install the 13gm rollers in my wife's pcx as well. Both are 2013 pcx 150's.

Thanks for replying. Did you buy it from eBay?

PCX 125 CANDY RED · Post by **PCX 125 CANDY RED** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:28 pm

I have been playing with roller weights recently to no avail, I will report back later.

Got you, let us know please how ends your playing with rollers and what finally weight you decide to leave please.

PCX 125 CANDY RED · Post by **PCX 125 CANDY RED** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:49 pm

Blubayou wrote:Hi Candy Red,

The replacement belt has made no difference to performance whatsoever.

It is exactly the same as when fitted with the original 9000 mile old belt, so Honda's guidance of 15'000 mile changes seems fair.

My rollers however are original (17g) and are quite heavily flat spotted.

I have been playing with roller weights recently to no avail, I will report back later.

I would suggest Mr Honda knows how to set his bikes up for a good mixture of performance with economy.......

How does 23100-KWN-901 belt works compared to 23100-KZR-601 ????

So now you are 100% SURE - they are IDENTICAL ? 23100-KWN-901 and 23100-KZR-601 ???

PCX 125 CANDY RED · Post by **PCX 125 CANDY RED** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:58 pm

Guys, watch it

New genuine drive belt for Honda PCX 125 150

It fits all years

Crazy

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-genuine-d ... 3a91e5af3b

PCX 125 CANDY RED · Post by **PCX 125 CANDY RED** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:47 am

PCX 125 CANDY RED wrote:
Blubayou wrote:Hi Candy Red,

The replacement belt has made no difference to performance whatsoever.

It is exactly the same as when fitted with the original 9000 mile old belt, so Honda's guidance of 15'000 mile changes seems fair.

My rollers however are original (17g) and are quite heavily flat spotted.

I have been playing with roller weights recently to no avail, I will report back later.

I would suggest Mr Honda knows how to set his bikes up for a good mixture of performance with economy.......
How does 23100-KWN-901 belt works compared to 23100-KZR-601 ????

So now you are 100% SURE - they are IDENTICAL ? 23100-KWN-901 and 23100-KZR-601 ???

PLEASE REPLY !

Jge64 · Post by **Jge64** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:43 am

Jge64 wrote:Per mel's experience, ill be mounting the 13 gm Dr Pulley sliders this coming tues, will report back with results.

Done, big diff on takeoff, a worthwhile mod

Mel46 · Post by **Mel46** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:27 am

Like I tell my wife, my little pcx may not get up to as much top end as the big boys do, but it gets up to its little top end fast. It pulls its little heart out and gets where it can as fast as it can. Now that I have the 13gm rollers in, it runs great, so I highly recommend them.

Jge64 · Post by **Jge64** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:34 am

Like I said above the diff to me is a lot stronger "pull" from 0-5 mph, which is where I need it in south Florida traffic.

you you · Post by **you you** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:53 pm

Mel46 wrote:Like I tell my wife, my little pcx may not get up to as much top end as the big boys do, but it gets up to its little top end fast. It pulls its little heart out and gets where it can as fast as it can. Now that I have the 13gm rollers in, it runs great, so I highly recommend them.

Totally agree. It is what it is and it does what it does fantastically. Want something else, get something else

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