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 Post subject: Texas flooding...
PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:36 pm 
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If your scoot was under water for a week would you give up her, part her out? Such a mess when a hurricane floods your home and garage. You don't think about it until you see the water rising. Really hard times for Texas bay area... WOW!

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 Post subject: Re: Texas flooding...
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If your scoot was under water for a week would you give up her, part her out? Such a mess when a hurricane floods your home and garage. You don't think about it until you see the water rising. Really hard times for Texas bay area... WOW!


Yay. Excellent piss away those fossil fuels and laugh at global warming. Build those beaches higher you say. F you because I'm OK.

Poor buggers probably aren't worrying about scooters. Or thinking about about what happens elsewhere in the world where this isn't commonplace.

You need to be looking at your shoes.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas flooding...
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OMG youyou there have been much worst storms before cars and concrete... global warming pssss

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 Post subject: Re: Texas flooding...
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"Title washing"

This being discussed heavily in the car dealerships in the last week, my contacts in chain operations are already on the lookout and briefing their staff… It will certainly apply to motorcycles as well… Be careful what you buy...The amount of flood vehicles is exponentially larger than any other hurricane in recent memory just due to the sheer expanse of square miles affected…

https://www.cars.com/articles/2014/09/s ... shed-cars/

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 Post subject: Re: Texas flooding...
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I was in Coast Guard Aviation Search and Rescue for 12 years.
I have been in multiple hurricanes and rescued people in multiple others. People are optimistic. It is hard to see daylight when you are standing in darkness, but eventually this too will pass.

The one thing that I have never understood is why people do not go to the shelters in advance of the storm, especially when they know that it is going to bring record rainfall. When the news says in advance of the storm that it will bring 40 to 50 inches of rain, look out your door and decide how high that will be. Then double it because of backups of sewers. Plus, if you are anywhere near water, that water will become your enemy with 130 mph winds.

Even if you know for certain that you will be above the waterline, where is your sewage going to Go? Are you prepared to lose electricity? Do you have enough drinking water for double the amount of time the storm will take to completely pass You? Food? There won't be any supermarkets open. A way out if the water does Rise? Flashlights and Batteries? Gas water Heater? Will water reach It?

As you can see, there are a lot of questions that people need to ask themselves if they plan on riding out a storm of this magnitude. Just close up your house and go to a shelter as far from the storm as you can safely go.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas flooding...
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Condolences to the victims. Speedy rebuilding homes and stabilizing lives.


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I was in Coast Guard Aviation Search and Rescue for 12 years.
I have been in multiple hurricanes and rescued people in multiple others. People are optimistic. It is hard to see daylight when you are standing in darkness, but eventually this too will pass.

The one thing that I have never understood is why people do not go to the shelters in advance of the storm, especially when they know that it is going to bring record rainfall. When the news says in advance of the storm that it will bring 40 to 50 inches of rain, look out your door and decide how high that will be. Then double it because of backups of sewers. Plus, if you are anywhere near water, that water will become your enemy with 130 mph winds.

Even if you know for certain that you will be above the waterline, where is your sewage going to Go? Are you prepared to lose electricity? Do you have enough drinking water for double the amount of time the storm will take to completely pass You? Food? There won't be any supermarkets open. A way out if the water does Rise? Flashlights and Batteries? Gas water Heater? Will water reach It?

As you can see, there are a lot of questions that people need to ask themselves if they plan on riding out a storm of this magnitude. Just close up your house and go to a shelter as far from the storm as you can safely go.


People ??? they blow my mind..


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 Post subject: Re: Texas flooding...
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Climate change is making these weather events much worse. 50 inches of rainfall, that's like a lot.
Texans need help, i'll be donating blood with the Red Cross and look into aid organizations that use their money effectively. That means no money to the Red Cross.

Would a scooter that is in the water for a week even start?


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"Would a scooter that is in the water for a week even start?"
I have seen mechanics get cars started eventually that had been sitting for 40 years. Probably, with enough knowledge, the scooter would start and run again. Granted, some of the electronics would be bad by then, but out of enough bad ones there should be enough parts to get some of them working.
The biggest problem buyers will have, especially in other states, will be those flood cars. There are enough bottom feeding car dealers out there that will buy the insurance rejects, fix them, and sell them in other states. The cars will run fine for awhile. Then that water damage will makes its way into the wiring and all sorts of problems will start to occur. Meanwhile the dealer will be laughing all the way to the bank.
Buyer beware, especially right after a hurricane.

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There has to be a way a savvy used vehicle buyer can easily identify a flood victim. And those repackaging insurance write offs and salvage titles get busted and serve a couple years at county walking the highway picking garbage. For now buy or lease new and own nothing is my two cents.

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There will be tens of thousands of cars that will go through the system and never be noticed. Simply because you have a few states that will completely wash a title and you'll never know it. Unfortunately title laws are still the perview of the state, not the nation. But any recent title change you see after investigation that shows Mississippi or Oklahoma involved, run Forrest run.....

A dealer I know after Katrina had 85 cars on one lot affected. A wholesaler out of Oklahoma walked in, cut one check and took them all.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas flooding...
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I would not be surprised if they show up in 6 months. I read a report on the Internet that there are a minimum of 3 million cars that will be written off from Harvey, including multiple new car dealerships. Remember, if a great car deal comes along that seems too good to be true, it is probably a bad car. Imagine a brand new, fully equipped car that normally retails for $40,000 being advertised for only $10,000. Looks great, right?? Not if it is a flood car. Yes, they can be cleaned up and dried out, but the electronics and wiring will cause you a ton of trouble in 6 months to a year.
Jge64 is right. Not only is vehicle titling the responsibility of the individual states, but so are Drivers License themselves, which are now widely used for identification. It seems to me that if something will affect everyone in every state then it should be under Federal control. Otherwise, these types of problems are inevitable.
Did you know that the southern states in the USA have no safety inspection on the cars registered in their state?

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Did you know that the southern states in the USA have no safety inspection on the cars registered in their state?
Illinois is about as far left as it gets and we don't have anyone inspecting anything, can't afford it... broke! Send all that water logged crap to Chicago and dump it downtown, suckers born every day :roll:


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Jge64, that link you provided is a great start for those who don't understand title washing, and the major problems it causes. It also explains why it is hard to spot a washed title, even if you use a service like Carfax. Be prepared. The 'flood' is coming. 3 million Harvey cars.

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It's a total scam, but because states want the taxes involved with titles, it'll never happen. At least congress should frame the requirements to be uniform.

Your point about new car inventories being in the mix is the dangerous part, they will be sold as a unit mid way between "true used" and a fresh new car.....

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Mel46 wrote:
Did you know that the southern states in the USA have no safety inspection on the cars registered in their state?


Texas has a safety inspection that has to be done annually.
In Arizona, many vehicles can get a 5 year registration, so inspections are not done every year.
Just some information about a couple of states I know about.

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Anyone want to buy a used Van? Slight flood damage.
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This is what floods do to cars.

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...and this is a car lot...


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Dgnyberg is right!

Texas does have annual inspections, but I can't think of anything in the inspection that would trigger that the car had been in a flood.

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How awful.

Anyone picked up or care about India/Nepal?

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